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Old 05-26-2017, 06:02 AM   #1
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Safety chains vs Class V hitch

For those that have fought trying to attach 5/16" slip hooks on your chains to the holes in a class V hitch, a little tip. If hook has safety latch, simply use a Dremel and grind off about 3/16" from end of latch, use Dremel to recut notch in center of latch and they fit like a glove on your class V.Click image for larger version

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Old 05-26-2017, 08:51 AM   #2
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thanks---nice tip........
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I installed larger hooks.
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I installed larger hooks.
The problem I saw, larger hooks usually require larger chain. 1/2" hook was going to require larger links for clevis pin to fit thru. This fix is zero dollars and took 10 minutes to do both sides.
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I put a large chair link on the truck.
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Good idea, but I use shackles. Also gives me a place to tie my emergency brake cable.
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Good tip but I just removed them altogether never had them on any of my other trailers. Later RJD
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3/8" hooks

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Good tip but I just removed them altogether never had them on any of my other trailers. Later RJD
Safety chains are required by law in all states.
Also, how many people new to towing know the chains are to be crossed under the tongue of the trailer. Left side of trailer to right side of TV, right side of trailer to left side of TV.
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Both my chains are attached at the same point under the trailer tongue so crossing them does nothing.
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I know what your saying but if you look they will be connected in a left-right configuration. Connecting in a crossed pattern creates a cradle under the tongue. This helps prevent the tongue from digging into the ground/road if it becomes disconnected.
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2X on crossing the chains under the trailer tongue.
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I know what your saying but if you look they will be connected in a left-right configuration. Connecting in a crossed pattern creates a cradle under the tongue. This helps prevent the tongue from digging into the ground/road if it becomes disconnected.


I understand and agree with you but with both chains connected at the same point, no cradle is created.
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I understand and agree with you but with both chains connected at the same point, no cradle is created.
I don't understand how that could be. Even if the mfg welded the center link to the tongue you will still have a left-right configuration unless one is behind the other, then one chain will be slightly longer than the other.
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Both my chains are attached to a common central point you can see in the photo.

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I put a large chair link on the truck.
Can you provide an image for this? I can't figure out what it is.

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Both my chains are attached to a common central point you can see in the photo.

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Looks like there is a common point of failure there, and it offers no redundancy at all if that loop breaks when the chains become the only things keeping your trailer behind your tow vehicle.

My current trailer is also arranged this same way, and I will be changing it to look like our old one, photo below.

Each chain is bolted to the outside of the frame with a fine-thread bolt, large washer, the chain, a spacer to give the chain's link some room to swivel, then through the frame, a large malleable iron washer, and finally two nuts jammed together and Loctited. All hardware except the iron washer is Grade-8. The assembly is just loose-enough to allow the chain link to swivel if some effort is exerted on it.

I don't know if it's any better for my efforts, but at least I tried to make it so, and it certainly allows for crossed chains.

I did it this way after I learned that Texas and Washington don't allow safety chains to be welded to the trailer. I used to tow through those states, thus the arrangement.

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Safety chains vs Class V hitch

That piece of metal the chains are attached to is more sturdy than the chains so the chains would fail first. Besides, the emergency brake switch cable is shorter than the safety chains meaning the trailer brakes would get fully applied before the chains even got tight.
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Safety chains are required by law in all states.
Also, how many people new to towing know the chains are to be crossed under the tongue of the trailer. Left side of trailer to right side of TV, right side of trailer to left side of TV.
You miss read I use the chains but got rid of the little clip and yes I've always crossed my chains for over 40 years. Later RJD
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That piece of metal the chains are attached to is more sturdy than the chains so the chains would fail first. Besides, the emergency brake switch cable is shorter than the safety chains meaning the trailer brakes would get fully applied before the chains even got tight.
Your arrangement won't pass muster (at least) in Washington State (and there may be more), as their law states, in part:

"The means of attachment of safety chains must: (a) Be located equally distant from and on opposite sides of the longitudinal centerline of the towing vehicle and of the trailer."

Yours is ON the longitudinal centerline.

It seems strange that RV manufacturers seem to build it so that it's legal in the state of delivery, irrespective of the other 49.

Anyways, you're a long ways from Washington.

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