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Old 10-23-2014, 10:27 AM   #31
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This thread is like kids arguing, "My old man can whip your old man!"
I'm not arguing, I'm just proving why I'm right!!!!
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:28 AM   #32
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Ummm, I got it from your statement here.

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The MaxTow package gives: 3.73 gears, . . .


You are not giving any facts here. I am not sure where you are getting your info from, but I get mine from Ford documents.

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What is your FGAWR? If it is 3900, then you are correct. Otherwise, a similarly equipped Max Tow will not have the same one as your non-Max Tow.

I also don't imagine your truck has XA code front springs. What does your truck list as it's spring codes?
Here is a (157" 7700GVWR) max tow example of spring codes directly from a build list:
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4L34 5310 XA Left Front Coil
4L34 5310 XA Right Front Coil
CL34-5560-J* Left/Rear Leaf Spring
CL34-5560-J* Right/Rear Leaf Spring"




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Old 10-23-2014, 10:30 AM   #33
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I am merely providing accurate information.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:32 AM   #34
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If I'm reading this correctly, you have it exactly backwards. The HD Payload INCLUDES everything the MaxTow has and more. The MaxTow is the lesser package. HD payload adds 7 lug wheels with E rated tires, the 9.75" rear diff and heavier springs and shocks.
Good Lord man!

The 535 is not the Max Tow package.

Of course, the HD Payload is bigger than the Max Tow (and therefore the 535). That wasn't the point of the post.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:35 AM   #35
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Prime rib and a beer for this one.

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Old 10-23-2014, 11:08 AM   #36
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New F250's with the 6.7 actually come standard with 3.31s. That would have been unheard of in a 4 speed diesel of the late 90s!
Depends on how they were ordered, my 97 has a 3.54 LSD in it.
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Once again, my statements clearly indicate that the MaxTow comes with 3.73's

Also, you clearly stated that the HD is the "lesser of the packages". That's not the case. It is basically an upgraded MaxTow.

I did find the fleet doc you are referring to in your last image. I wrongly assumed that since the HD package CLEARLY indicates "9.75 gear set" non HD's would have something different. Not sure why it's listed as an upgrade in that package when it isn't????

As far as my comment about the springs. I have compared my spring codes from my door jamb (145" SCrew, 4x4, 20" wheels) to a MaxTow SCrew and the codes were identical. UUGG, if I remember correctly. Another truck identical to mine except for 18" wheels had UUAA, if I remember correctly.

If you analyze your doc closely, you'll see that the FAWR doesn't change on any truck, regardless of MaxTow or HD package. The only change is when going from 145" to 157".
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Depends on how they were ordered, my 97 has a 3.54 LSD in it.
I think it actually would have had a 3.55 LSD, as I had one.

But that was the highest ratio you could get. And I THINK that 3.73's were the lowest you could get in the 99-03's. And those were considered "highway gears". Everyone knew those serious about towing went with the 4.10's, which was the only other option in 97.
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madmax, I just caught the footnote about the 20" tire option having the 4050 GAWR. I assume that change in GAWR is there because of the rear spring being the same as the max tow rear spring. Therefore, I have exactly the same axle capacities and the exact same springs as the MaxTow. Further solidifies my position that the only difference is the number on the sticker, as far as payload goes.
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Everyone knew those serious about towing went with the 4.10's, which was the only other option in 97.
FIL ordered the truck new and was happy with the higher ratio towing a high profile 36' three slide 5'ver (he was patient).
Its now mildly modded, and meets my needs towing a similar length but much lighter TT just fine.
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