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Old 10-22-2014, 12:12 AM   #1
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Im thinking of buying a Flagstaff 8228 RLIKWS 5th wheel. I would appreciate any feed back, I have a Ford F-150 short bed with Eco-boost and tow package.
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:59 AM   #2
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Ain't gonna happen. Couldn't handle weight, not enough strength in the horse power to pull it‼
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:59 AM   #3
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Im thinking of buying a Flagstaff 8228 RLIKWS 5th wheel. I would appreciate any feed back, I have a Ford F-150 short bed with Eco-boost and tow package.
I'm guessing you meant the 8528RLIKWS which has a dry weight of 7698 and a gvwr of 9250 lbs. With only 1552 lbs cargo capacity you will likely be close to max fiver weight loaded. Typically ideal pin weight is 20-25% of loaded fiver weight (brochure pin weight won't help you much as you will never tow empty or unloaded). This means you are likely looking at a pin weight of 1850-2300 lbs.

Now let's look at your eco boost. Lots of variation in the ecoboost. Everything from small payload to a larger payload depending on how it's equipped. Look on your door tire loading sticker for "weight of cargo and occupants should not exceed x lbs". This is your available payload before calculating in weight of passengers, pets, gear and fiver hitch (150-200 lbs for hitch). You can get a rough estimate by adding all of this up and subtracting from that sticker number. This won't tell you your axle weights though.

Best thing to do is load the truck up like you would for camping with passengers, pets, etc and full tank of fuel. Go weigh your truck at a catscale. Weigh it with front axle on scale pad one and rear axle on scale pad two. Push the button and tell them private vehicle first weigh. Now go inside and get your ticket. Take the rear axle weight and subtract it from trucks max rawr to get your available room on your axle (to accommodate fiver hitch and pin weight). Take the total truck weight and subtract it from the trucks gcwr to get your adjusted towing capacity. Take the total scaled truck weight and subtract it from trucks gvwr to get your available payload. Loaded pin weight must be below max rawr and payload. Stay within these numbers and you should be fine. I have a friend towing a crossroads cruiser heavier than this flagstaff with his ecoboost. No problems in va and pa mountains but he does have the max tow HD version.
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You have enough horsepower but it is likely that, from a payload perspective, your truck would be significantly overloaded. Look at the payload capacity of your truck and then look at the pin weight of the trailer. You are probably overloaded right there; without hitch weight and then the difference between dry and "wet" weight of the loaded trailer. Then also the weight of your family, pets, etc in the truck also subtract from payload capacity.
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According to the weight police, I can't tow a 12 Flagstaff 8528RKWS with my Silverado Ext. Cab 5.3L with a 3.23 rear end either. But it's like the humming bird, theoretically a humming bird can't fly, but he doesn't know it so he just keeps flying. I've pulled in all the mountains east of the Mississippi with no problems whatsoever and average 10.2 mpg and tow at 55-65 mph. Towed an 08 Flagstaff 831RLSS and the 8528RKWS over 50,000 miles with this truck and still going. It may blow the next time we hook up to go to FL, but so far, so good.
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According to the weight police, I can't tow a 12 Flagstaff 8528RKWS with my Silverado Ext. Cab 5.3L with a 3.23 rear end either. But it's like the humming bird, theoretically a humming bird can't fly, but he doesn't know it so he just keeps flying. I've pulled in all the mountains east of the Mississippi with no problems whatsoever and average 10.2 mpg and tow at 55-65 mph. Towed an 08 Flagstaff 831RLSS and the 8528RKWS over 50,000 miles with this truck and still going. It may blow the next time we hook up to go to FL, but so far, so good.
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Seen a 50,000 mile duramax allison on Craigslist.
You buy it I'll help you install it.

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I might be a little off topic, but have been thinking about 5th wheel and trucks lately. I would prefer a 1/2 ton truck for cost and ride while not towing. Some trailers claim to be 1/2 ton towable, but most trucks fall short in the payload department even for those "light" rigs.

Question: what happens if you have an accident, your fault or someone else's, and it's determined you were over weight? Do you lose your house??? I'm sure accidents have happened, but I'm not aware of real world situations.

BTW, I'm not trying to start anything, just curios about what would happen.
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You buy it I'll help you install it. Turbs
Thanks, but no Thanks. Do appreciate the offer tho'.
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