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Old 05-11-2013, 02:02 PM   #1
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110 power.

When I plug my camper, flagstaff 246 d popup, into 110 power, does it charge the battery as well???
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When I plug my camper, flagstaff 246 d popup, into 110 power, does it charge the battery as well???
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Old 05-11-2013, 02:13 PM   #4
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Also your tv will charge your battery while enroute to and from camping as long as your tv charge line is hot.


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Turbs, will it do this if the inverter/battery shut off inside the camper is off? I have heard conflicting information about this.
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Turbs, will it do this if the inverter/battery shut off inside the camper is off? I have heard conflicting information about this.
you don't need to use the battery disconnect switch when you're plugged into shore power.
you use it when you're NOT plugged into shore power and you don't want the battery to drain.
when it's plugged into shore power, it won't drain because it's being charged.
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Ok, so I had my unit plugged in to a regular 110 socket and adapted it up to my RV extension cord. I was out doing stuff like flushing lines, trying the awning, etc. I left the unit plugged in to charge the battery but instinctively shut off the inside battery cut off switch.

Problem? No problem?
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Ok, so I had my unit plugged in to a regular 110 socket and adapted it up to my RV extension cord. I was out doing stuff like flushing lines, trying the awning, etc. I left the unit plugged in to charge the battery but instinctively shut off the inside battery cut off switch.

Problem? No problem?
No problem; just no charging going on.
A dead battery; now THAT could be a problem!
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Also your tv will charge your battery while enroute to and from camping as long as your tv charge line is hot.


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Trying to remember, but isn't this true only for a 7-pin? I'm thinking that a 4-pin doesn't have a hot wire. Maybe they are all 7 pin anyway . . . . but I've seen some people with 4 pin use an adaptor.
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Trying to remember, but isn't this true only for a 7-pin? I'm thinking that a 4-pin doesn't have a hot wire. Maybe they are all 7 pin anyway . . . . but I've seen some people with 4 pin use an adaptor.
The four pin is left signal, right signal, brake and ground. If there is a four pin on the TV or the trailer, the battery will not charge. Also I think for safety reasons, a lot of trailers will not use the hot wire on a seven pin i.e. for things like current draw from the trailer during engine start. Even though a high amp diode inline could mitigate this.
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Trying to remember, but isn't this true only for a 7-pin? I'm thinking that a 4-pin doesn't have a hot wire. Maybe they are all 7 pin anyway . . . . but I've seen some people with 4 pin use an adaptor.
Any trailer with electric brakes (whether RV, boat, utility) will need more than a 4-pin connector.

Here is a chart that shows the common trailer connectors and the corresponding wire color codes.

If you read the part about the 6-pin connector being able to have the center pin used for brakes or auxiliary, I will verify that one. We have two gooseneck tire trailers with 6-pin connectors. I use an adapter that will allow a six pin round to be plugged into my trucks 7 pin RV spade connector. When you purchase these adapters, you have to read the package, as there are two different adaptors. I always have to buy the one the states the center pin is auxiliary.

I learned this lesson the hard way. I didn't look and bought one that said center pin brakes. I plugged in one of my trailers and the brakes instantly locked up. Problem is I had my trailer a long way from anywhere when I did this. I had to end up taking the trailers connector apart and rewiring it to get home.

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The units with Fac.installed battery cut off switch. Are they wired to let the T/V charge the unit battery going down the road,with the batt.cut off switch turned Off? Youroo!!
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The cut off switch is just an inline cut off so when it's off, the voltage stops at the switch. There is no second wire that it picks up, so no, it does not charge.
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The cut off switch is just an inline cut off so when it's off, the voltage stops at the switch. There is no second wire that it picks up, so no, it does not charge.
Not true.

The tv charge wire goes directly to the battery .
Doesn't matter if the cut off switch is off or on.
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We talking about pop-ups here?

This is the tent camper - pop up section...
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Old 05-12-2013, 02:57 PM   #16
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Ok, so I had my unit plugged in to a regular 110 socket and adapted it up to my RV extension cord. I was out doing stuff like flushing lines, trying the awning, etc. I left the unit plugged in to charge the battery but instinctively shut off the inside battery cut off switch.

Problem? No problem?
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The "display" does not show the battery's charge (necessarily) it shows "Camper Voltage" If the battery is sitting on the pavement and you plug the camper into shore power, the "battery monitor" will show "C" (not full - look at the readings) for "Charging" - meaning the voltage on the camper is above 12.7 volts.

When not plugged in, and allowed to sit for a few hours to equalize, a true battery condition can be determined. You can also get a true reading with a hydrometer to check electrolyte specific gravity (wear old clothes).
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Also note: To avoid ruining your battery, the battery should be recharged promptly after the "G" light goes out (50% capacity remaining).
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I didn't even realize this was the popup section. I was directed here from the "recent discussion" sub menu. But I think I understand now.
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Wow, I just looked back on this thread. Total Hijack.

Apologies to the OP Daler442.

Daler443, did your question get answered?
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I thought it was adding more valuable information to the original posters question.
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