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Old 09-25-2014, 09:38 PM   #1
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Do you use shore power to run the powerwinch?

I came across a thread of Coleman owners who said that there units had a sticker on them that said to only use 12V DC to operate the power lift and not to use shore power as it could damage the unit.

I have always plugged it in so as not to drain the battery and to provide needed juice. Am I the only one that does this?

Should I be bringing a battery charger with me to provide the extra juice?

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Old 09-25-2014, 09:55 PM   #2
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Shorepower. The jack is 12vdc and is wired to the battery. You aren't going to give it more than the 13.x volts the converter is going to provide.
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:40 PM   #3
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I came across a thread of Coleman owners who said that there units had a sticker on them that said to only use 12V DC to operate the power lift and not to use shore power as it could damage the unit.

I have always plugged it in so as not to drain the battery and to provide needed juice. Am I the only one that does this?

Should I be bringing a battery charger with me to provide the extra juice?

Thanks,

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Why would you need a separate battery charger when you have a 3 stage converter that will charge the battery when you have shore power?

I usually lift the roof before plugging into shore power, for no particular reason other than that is my routine. and I don't think it makes any difference, the power for the winch comes from the battery regardless of whether or not the camper is plugged into shore power or not.
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:09 AM   #4
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This is a pic of the sticker. It may only apply to the Barker power lifts on the Coleman/Fleetwoods but made me thing of power lifts overall. It mentions the converter.
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:18 AM   #5
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I think what this sticker is saying is "don't use the lift unless you have a battery installed," ie, don't take the battery out and then try to use the lift with just the converter's output, as it won't be enough (which I find hard to believe, but whatever.) The lift motor is getting 12v from the battery, so why would it matter if the converter was plugged in charging the battery or not? That's the only explanation that makes sense to me... Coleman needs to explain this a little better, IMO.
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I would say that that sticker is a kind of a redundant but obvious sticker that you find now required by the legal department of so many various manufactures.

Kind of like the "Warning Label" on a jar of peanuts that states that there may be peanuts or peanut by products used when making this item. WELL, DUH I would sure hope that there was,
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I came across a thread of Coleman owners who said that there units had a sticker on them that said to only use 12V DC to operate the power lift and not to use shore power as it could damage the unit.

I have always plugged it in so as not to drain the battery and to provide needed juice. Am I the only one that does this?

Should I be bringing a battery charger with me to provide the extra juice?

Thanks,

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Look at the sticker in post #4.

The 'plain English', (which is confusing by the sticker) is that there must be a GOOD battery installed on the unit in order to have the full 12v umphff to get the power lift going. A camper 'Can' (not recommended) use some 12v applications with out a battery installed by getting the 12v voltage from the converter (a couple of 12v lights and/or the radio). Some systems will not 'start' because the 'converter alone' will not be able to have the required umphff (full 12v) at the beginning of the requirement.... Your converter is 'on' a trickle charge (2v?) mode and as a requested drain off is detected from the battery the converter can/will go to a higher charge (for the battery) mode of around 14.0v. So, you can not run your power lift OR your heat furnace with out a good battery. If your battery has bad cells or a short, you 'still' may not be able to run your power lift, slide outs, and/or furnace your furnace.
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Thank you brother Les. That makes sense.

I always do have the battery charged up before every trip and hooked up for the tow in. I then back in, level and plug in so I can raise the roof and get the fridge going.

Sounds like all is well. Thanks.

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Thank you brother Les. That makes sense.

I always do have the battery charged up before every trip and hooked up for the tow in. I then back in, level and plug in so I can raise the roof and get the fridge going.

Sounds like all is well. Thanks.

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Low voltage is like a brown out to the electric motor. SO if the the battery is dead, the converter might supply enough for the motor to turn, but not enough for it to turn as designed; thus creating heat and damaging the motor. Whereas a dead battery won't do a darn thing.

And a good battery charger is a lot better than the charge provided on one of the WFCC converters normally installed on these popups.
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