Does battery power 110/120 v outlets?

gbjeff · 07-04-2016, 04:28 PM

We just bought a 228BHSF PUP. My dealer said that they battery will power the entire camper, including the 110/120v outlets? Does the camper have an inverter? I am skeptical.

Charles Firth · 07-04-2016, 04:35 PM

I have a Windjammer, my 12 volt only powers, lights, slides, jacks and while running on propane its needed for the fridge and hot water. And of course it also provides power to the 12 volt water pump. No outlets are powered by my 12 volt.

W5CI · 07-04-2016, 04:41 PM

Sounds like you had a great sales person if they made you believe that battery powers everything

**Bama Rambler** · 07-04-2016, 04:41 PM

If they didn't show you the inverter, I'd bet that it doesn't have one.

If you're pretty close to the dealer I'd take it back by there and ask them to show it to me and show me how to use it..

**Flybob** · 07-04-2016, 04:49 PM

Never seen an inverter in a PUP from factory.
Rule #1. Do not trust the salesperson.

Ford Idaho · 07-04-2016, 04:51 PM

If the salesman told you that call him on it in front of the manager of the lot.

It works as described or it's free.

gbjeff · 07-04-2016, 04:56 PM

Thanks for the quick feedback. This is a great community.

I just dragged out the camper and tried it myself. Yep, does not work. I assumed at the time that this was too good to be true, but it is a little frustrating.

We just sold out 1992 Coleman Pioneer Newport, so it's been awhile since we shopped around for campers. When I inquired about a built-in DC to AC inverter and the guy nodded, I was thrilled. However, I'm not angry.

I have sleep apnea, so the idea of being able to use the built-in battery to power my CPAP sounded really good. However, I've made due for years with my own battery dedicated solely to the CPAP. Just bought a Honda EU2000i generator that can recharge the battery in a few hours. Thanks again for the replies brothers.

Still Kickin · 07-04-2016, 05:31 PM

So, your new RV has 120v duplexes and when you energize the trailer they are not powered.
What is the purpose, does it require a converter not supplied with your unit?

wanderingbob · 07-04-2016, 05:36 PM

You do use a battery charger to charge the batts , not the converter . Converter is way slow !

raspivey · 07-04-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gbjeff

Thanks for the quick feedback. This is a great community.

I just dragged out the camper and tried it myself. Yep, does not work. I assumed at the time that this was too good to be true, but it is a little frustrating.

We just sold out 1992 Coleman Pioneer Newport, so it's been awhile since we shopped around for campers. When I inquired about a built-in DC to AC inverter and the guy nodded, I was thrilled. However, I'm not angry.

I have sleep apnea, so the idea of being able to use the built-in battery to power my CPAP sounded really good. However, I've made due for years with my own battery dedicated solely to the CPAP. Just bought a Honda EU2000i generator that can recharge the battery in a few hours. Thanks again for the replies brothers.

I'm assuming you're doing a lot of boondocking? We had the Rockwood version of that trailer at one time. We enjoyed it.

gbjeff · 07-04-2016, 05:43 PM

The 120v outlets are powered when I hook into shore power. I was hoping the camper battery would power them as well.

**bikendan** · 07-04-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Still Kickin

So, your new RV has 120v duplexes and when you energize the trailer they are not powered.
What is the purpose, does it require a converter not supplied with your unit?

The 120v AC outlets only work when plugged into shore power or a generator.

UNLESS your RV has an inverter wired inline with the oulets.
Normally only some motorhomes and 5th wheels have such a setup available from the factory.
Such a system requires a large battery bank.

A CONverter does the opposite and all RVS have one.
It converts 120v AC to 12v DC to power the 12v things.
It also will use the 120v AC power to recharge the batteries.

WestCoastRV'er · 07-04-2016, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bikendan

The 120v AC outlets only work when plugged into shore power or a generator.

UNLESS your RV has an inverter wired inline with the oulets.
Normally only some motorhomes and 5th wheels have such a setup available from the factory.
Such a system requires a large battery bank.

A CONverter does the opposite and all RVS have one.
It converts 120v AC to 12v DC to power the 12v things.
It also will use the 120v AC power to recharge the batteries.

You are correct. You would need an inverter hard wired to outlets or have a transfer switch hardwired.
Mine is setup with a transfer switch. I can turn on my inverter with the remote switch allowing all my 110v outlets/devices to run off batteries. Things to consider are you would need to turn off your electric hot water circuit and converter/battery charger circuit.

gbjeff · 07-04-2016, 10:26 PM

I have been putting money aside for the last year and have purchased a Honda EU2000i generator. I've had this on my wish list for about ten years. That will allow me to charge my CPAP battery easily and quickly (and quietly). :-)

tahoe1840 · 07-05-2016, 07:56 PM

I just read an article about CPAP machines and inverters, most require Pure Sine Wave inverters to operate them. If your thinking about a purchase of one do your research on both the inverter and your CPAP.

gbjeff · 07-05-2016, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tahoe1840

I just read an article about CPAP machines and inverters, most require Pure Sine Wave inverters to operate them. If your thinking about a purchase of one do your research on both the inverter and your CPAP.

Thank you. Yes, I bought a pure sine wave inverter. Works great, but they are pricey.

tkarper14 · 07-05-2016, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tahoe1840

I just read an article about CPAP machines and inverters, most require Pure Sine Wave inverters to operate them. If your thinking about a purchase of one do your research on both the inverter and your CPAP.

I have been thinking about this myself. Up until now, I have always had either shore power or in a situation to use the pure sine wave generator all night. Soon we will be taking a trip where I won't be able to run the generator at night. CPAP machines are 12 volts. It doesn't seem efficient to buy pure sine wave inverter only to convert back to 12 volts. I checked with my CPAP supplier about a 12 volt plug. They sell them for $50.00. I was hoping the insurance would pay for it, but no such luck. I am sure Amazon has them cheaper so I will be searching for one soon. According to the supplier, they draw about 5 amps with the humidifier running. I would think using an inverter would draw slightly more.

Tom48 · 07-06-2016, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gbjeff

Thank you. Yes, I bought a pure sine wave inverter. Works great, but they are pricey.

Most CPap machines will offer a 12 volt cable. Both of my machines run fine directly from the battery. I

waltdk · 07-06-2016, 01:21 AM

I just bought a power cord for my cpap here - http://www.cpap.com/productpage/resp...ower-cord.html. Then I installed a cigarette lighter socket on the side of my bed. Works great.

Dodaman · 07-28-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gbjeff

We just bought a 228BHSF PUP. My dealer said that they battery will power the entire camper, including the 110/120v outlets? Does the camper have an inverter? I am skeptical.

Sorry the sales person was a bit incorrect, your 12 v batteries will not power the regular house type outlets. And you don't have an inverter in your PUP, unless it is used and previous owner installed one. What you have like all us of is a converter. Where you are plugged into shore power, your outlets will work. Have fun.

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