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06-21-2019, 06:15 PM
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Just out of curiosity for the emergency exit windows
I haven't had a pop up for for about 12 years so my memory is rusty.
The emergency exit windows are on the back side, not door side, of the camper.
Rockwood has nothing about these in their manual or video setup, so I went back to one of their old 2006 manuals. It only says to open roof arm cover zipper and peel back velcro to escape.
I really see no difference in any of the 4 corners of the camper so I don't see why they are saying just the 2 windows on the back side.
Is there really any differences that I'm just not seeing that would keep them from labeling door side windows as exits as well?
Thanks
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06-21-2019, 06:26 PM
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The escape standards set by the RVIA and NFPA dictate the quantity and location for emergency egress depending upon sleeping locations, quantity of occupants, etc. It may not always make sense to the consumer but it's there for their safety.
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06-21-2019, 06:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woo10-210
The escape standards set by the RVIA and NFPA dictate the quantity and location for emergency egress depending upon sleeping locations, quantity of occupants, etc. It may not always make sense to the consumer but it's there for their safety. Doors are automatically egress locations and don't require labeling.
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I have a Pop Up camper, not a travel trailer. So what I'm talking about is that the sewing, zipper, and tent is no different on the back side compared to the front side. In fact the back side has more obstacles near it that are more of a safety issue as a bundle of wires nested on a section sewn to the zipper of the front bunk and the rear bunk exit is right over the stove and sink. The door side (front side) has less obstructions near the bunk windows, to escape much easier.
So as you see, makes no sense and why i posted this.
I have had 2 Jayco Jay Flight Travel Trailers and these 2 different types of campers can't even be compared for this safety question. The Travel Trailers had a push out window that had pull outs tabs for the screen and the window pushed up and out. Pull the screen out, push the window bar out, and swing the window up, and climb out.
The pop up escape area really isn't a window, just near the window but no good way of describing it. Most pop up owners would know what I was talking of, though. You unzip the roof lift arm tent cover, pull bunk velcro off of bottom of bunk, and climb out the side of the bunk where the tent is now detached.
Thank You for your comments though, I appreciate it.
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06-21-2019, 06:47 PM
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It doesn't matter if it's hard-walled or soft-walled. An emergency egress location must be placed within a certain distance of each sleeping location regardless of convenience. The RVIA and NFPA manuals will boggle your mind.
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06-21-2019, 07:45 PM
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I guess I am stupid. I would hide/hang some small razor knives in the bunk ends....if it’s on fire I don’t guess that will matter.
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06-21-2019, 09:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iwannacamp
I guess I am stupid. I would hide/hang some small razor knives in the bunk ends....if it’s on fire I don’t guess that will matter.
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Don't t think that would be a good idea with my young daughter in the bunk.
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06-22-2019, 08:37 AM
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If you look behind the curtains Mike all new Pop ups are marked with a white tag and red letters emergency exit. Mine is behind the dinette and behind the sink and stove.
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06-22-2019, 09:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAWARD
If you look behind the curtains Mike all new Pop ups are marked with a white tag and red letters emergency exit. Mine is behind the dinette and behind the sink and stove.
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Yep, that's why I asked why only the back side is marked with the exit tags instead of the front side when there's no difference that I can see.
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06-22-2019, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike91
Yep, that's why I asked why only the back side is marked with the exit tags instead of the front side when there's no difference that I can see.
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It's all about the number of sleeping positions and distance to an egress. How close is the entrance door to the front beds?
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06-22-2019, 09:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike91
Yep, that's why I asked why only the back side is marked with the exit tags instead of the front side when there's no difference that I can see.
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Propane tank(s) and the battery on the front ????
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06-22-2019, 10:51 AM
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The main exit is the Door! If there is a fire, and the door is blocked either inside or outside *Awning fire or something else on fire". The alternate exit needs to be the opposite the area of the fire, ie opposite the door.
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06-22-2019, 11:30 AM
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06-22-2019, 01:04 PM
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Thread closed at OP request.
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