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Old 06-26-2013, 03:59 PM   #1
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Popup toilet and bears

My Flagstaff 228 has the cassette toilet, although never used. I'm curious what the consensus is on this attracting bears and other wildlife. I live in the mountains of Colorado and always store everything with a scent inside the car, even when camping at large campgrounds where my neighbor has his grill still hanging off the side of the camper. I figure it's easier to get in the habit than to forget one time when I'm in the true wilderness. However, it would be much more convenient to let my wife and small children start using the bathroom.

I even thought about buying an extra cassette so that we have a clean/non-smelling option when needed and a usable option when needed.

So what's the consensus. Do you use your cassette toilet when camping in bear country?
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:45 PM   #2
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I don't have this type of trailer but I am curious to read the feedback on this.

When we were camping in the mountains we were informed not to leave soap, shampoo, lotion or anything with a scent in the car but rather to lock it up in the bear protected cabinet.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:24 PM   #3
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not sure why you would think that bears are attracted to human waste.

as far as i've ever read, that's never been a reason for attracting bears.
food, yes!

do you have some evidence that this is an issue in bear country?
otherwise, they'd be pushing pit toilets over to get to it.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:42 PM   #4
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No evidence of bears attracted to #1 or #2, but I'd hate to be exhibit A. And like Terier said, many places recommend locking up non-food items that have less odor than a toilet.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:44 AM   #5
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My Flagstaff 228 has the cassette toilet, although never used. I'm curious what the consensus is on this attracting bears and other wildlife. I live in the mountains of Colorado and always store everything with a scent inside the car, even when camping at large campgrounds where my neighbor has his grill still hanging off the side of the camper. I figure it's easier to get in the habit than to forget one time when I'm in the true wilderness. However, it would be much more convenient to let my wife and small children start using the bathroom.

I even thought about buying an extra cassette so that we have a clean/non-smelling option when needed and a usable option when needed.

So what's the consensus. Do you use your cassette toilet when camping in bear country?

We camp in bear country a lot, and have had any run-ins. I can say with pretty high certainty they are not attracted to the toilet. Its all about food. Any food they smell, they will go after. Also had one eat an entire citronella candle one night. Read the ingriedient list and it contained honey... They have also learned that campgrounds are like buffets. They know what a cooler is. I left a clean, empty cooler in the bed of the pickup with the tailgate up one night. Woke up to a bear in the bed tearing the top off. Unbelievable. And in the slow learner category, a few years earlier I had a cooler also in the back of the truck, tailgate up with some beer and soda, no food. Sitting by the fire and see something out of the corner of my eye - sure enough, bear in the truck going through the cooler. Messing with my beer is crossing the line. He was bigger than me, but we almost had it out. Fortunately, he left without the beer.

They really only care about food - I would worry about the toilet. And in campgrounds where the bears get used to people, they are pretty well trained about where to look for food.
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:46 AM   #6
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I think I would find another place to camp just to have the wife & kids safe, forget about the inconvenience of the toilet. Guess I just don't understand what is so enticing to invade the bear's territory and a possible confrontation that is going to result in a family member being hurt or possibly killed.

Don't want to start a big brouhaha about primitive camping, just trying to understand.
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Well rumor has it around here by what I've been reading, is that camping with OldCoot is kinda like primitive camping, with him being the bear?
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First - most eye catching subject line EVER!

Canines like my family dog will try to cover their scent with waste (nicest way I could put that) but I doubt bears are prone to that behavior.

I would bet a good layer of Thetford Deodorizer would keep the bears from any interest in the cassette. Yogi just wants the picnic basket.

That said, interesting topic - I wonder if any bear-ologists (ursinologists) have input of this. First person I would ask is a Ranger.
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If you live in the Colorado mountains and you are worried about bears then you need to educate yourself on the behavior and instincts of bears. There are plenty of good books on the subject and I would think a state park or national park ranger (that’s RANGER, not park employee or camp host) could give you good advice also.
Forums on the Internet would be my last choice for getting advice about bears.
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Well rumor has it around here by what I've been reading, is that camping with OldCoot is kinda like primitive camping, with him being the bear?
You got that right, a teddy bear. I'm pretty docile in my old age.
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