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Old 06-18-2019, 02:43 PM   #1
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Question for Fellow 2016 228D pup Owners

I just posted in the welcome mat as I am new to the forums and pup camping in general.

I am going to post some photos on my 228D of the slideout where the tent material attaches. I feel as if something is wrong with what I have. The tent along the sides of the slide-out attaches with velcro to screwed down rigid plastic strips with velcro on them that are screwed down to the frame. However, the majority of the front to back side of the popout has adhesive velcro both on the trailer body and the tent. That just doesnt seem right. AT the very least if that whole window was meant to be velcro'd in I would assume it would have the screwed down velcro strips rather than adhesive type.

I feel that we are missing some permanent metal piece that sandwiches the tent material down do the side frame instead of the velcro I refer to.

Take a look at the pics. If anyone can tell me what should be there or has imaged of the same or a similar trailer they can share with me I would appreciate it.

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The edge of the slide-out metal frame with sticky adhesive velcro:


The corresponding tent material with a very wide white strip of sticky velcro:


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Old 06-18-2019, 04:32 PM   #2
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I just posted in the welcome mat as I am new to the forums and pup camping in general.

I am going to post some photos on my 228D of the slideout where the tent material attaches. I feel as if something is wrong with what I have. The tent along the sides of the slide-out attaches with velcro to screwed down rigid plastic strips with velcro on them that are screwed down to the frame. However, the majority of the front to back side of the popout has adhesive velcro both on the trailer body and the tent. That just doesnt seem right. AT the very least if that whole window was meant to be velcro'd in I would assume it would have the screwed down velcro strips rather than adhesive type.

I feel that we are missing some permanent metal piece that sandwiches the tent material down do the side frame instead of the velcro I refer to.

Take a look at the pics. If anyone can tell me what should be there or has imaged of the same or a similar trailer they can share with me I would appreciate it.

Photos:
The edge of the slide-out metal frame with sticky adhesive velcro:


The corresponding tent material with a very wide white strip of sticky velcro:


Thanks!
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Old 06-18-2019, 10:27 PM   #3
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Ok so here are the photos:

I have since watched the DVD that came with the manual and it shows a different model but with a slideout and I see something on the side of the slideout holding the fabric.

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Outer edge of slide-out with both the plastic strip with velcro screwed on to it, then the smaller adhesive strip that runs most of the length of that section. You can also see an empty screw hole. I found more if i pry up the edge of the adhesive velcro.
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:24 AM   #4
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Im adding the picture I found in the set-up video for a different model.

The arrow that points at what I labeled "What is this" is where I have all adhesive velcro.

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Old 06-19-2019, 01:54 PM   #5
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Im adding the picture I found in the set-up video for a different model.



The arrow that points at what I labeled "What is this" is where I have all adhesive velcro.



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What your pointing the tent should be permanent. Sides on mine are Velcro. At last on my slide out.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:55 PM   #6
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What your pointing the tent should be permanent. Sides on mine are Velcro. At last on my slide out.


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Old 06-19-2019, 01:57 PM   #7
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Thanks, given the number of empty screw holes I have suspected as much. I also don't think I can put back "factory" attachment because it appears to be the way the bunk ends are. Soft plastic sewn to the fabric and then the plastic has a large round end that slides in to that grip that is screwed down.

My fabric has nothing on the ends.
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Old 06-19-2019, 02:09 PM   #8
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Yes if I remember right canvas slides into a plastic trim piece like a bead. Mines closed up right now.
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Old 06-19-2019, 02:16 PM   #9
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Since its under the rain cover I think I am just going to see if I can find a plastic piece I can "clamp" it down under with damaging the tent material for now.

I just could't believe with the way most of it is held together that the entire window is held on with velcro.
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Old 06-19-2019, 08:10 PM   #10
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My 2020 2716g has side velcro strips that are screwed down, and a screwed down plastic rail on the front of the slide where the tent bulb slides in, and is then screwed in place. Everything is permanently attached.

After seeing your pics, looks as your camper was damaged and had the bulb ripped off the front of the slide out tent, and then repaired with velcro instead of a bulb, where the center plastic rail was replaced with stick on velcro. The side velcro strips that you still have, are what I have, with the rail in between the screwed down velcro end pieces. I would try to get a longer plastic velcro strip like you have the on the ends, and use that screwed down, as the end pieces, instead of the stick on velcro.

Probably not that big of an issue on the tent side if you can find some of that plastic velcro to screw down permanently. That way you don't have to worry about the glue drying out on the stick on velcro, and your slide out tent coming unattached.

Remember years ago, that even the bunkend tents were not attached permanently on their front face, they were either velcroed like the sides or used bungee cord.

So maybe not ideal, you can make it work.
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Old 06-19-2019, 08:20 PM   #11
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Im adding the picture I found in the set-up video for a different model.

The arrow that points at what I labeled "What is this" is where I have all adhesive velcro.

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That white center piece is the plastic rail I talked of, where the tent bulb slides into, and then is screwed in place.

I'm guessing that the last owner forgot to pull out the slide out tenting before pushing in the bunkends, and ripped the bulb off the tenting. The repair shop probably didn't have any bulbs or rails to fix the damage and decided to use velcro instead. Just GUESSING though.
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Old 06-19-2019, 11:36 PM   #12
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My 2020 2716g has side velcro strips that are screwed down, and a screwed down plastic rail on the front of the slide where the tent bulb slides in, and is then screwed in place. Everything is permanently attached.

After seeing your pics, looks as your camper was damaged and had the bulb ripped off the front of the slide out tent, and then repaired with velcro instead of a bulb, where the center plastic rail was replaced with stick on velcro. The side velcro strips that you still have, are what I have, with the rail in between the screwed down velcro end pieces. I would try to get a longer plastic velcro strip like you have the on the ends, and use that screwed down, as the end pieces, instead of the stick on velcro.

Probably not that big of an issue on the tent side if you can find some of that plastic velcro to screw down permanently. That way you don't have to worry about the glue drying out on the stick on velcro, and your slide out tent coming unattached.

Remember years ago, that even the bunkend tents were not attached permanently on their front face, they were either velcroed like the sides or used bungee cord.

So maybe not ideal, you can make it work.
Thanks, yeah. I didn't get to Lowes this evening to look for plastic to fix it. My plan is to use something to "trap" the tent fabric in kind of like the set screws on the aluminum rails in front of or behind the slide out but use plastic and just screw it down in to the holes that already exist. I have the original sales info. A 2016 that was bought in early 2017 and then sold to me. So it seems the former owner messed it up. I have found a few things he tinkered with that are jacked up. The gears on the winch motor where the pawl is... and the pawl are all screwed up :/ Just ordered those parts from powerwinch... $60 shipped.
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:58 AM   #13
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I thought I would share what I did to at least for now "fix" this problem.
I am asking F.R. where/how I can get parts but in the meantime this will do.

I did not realize until I got things apart more and got in to it but the previous owner replaced a section of the tent fabric with some kind of leather or leatherette material at the bottom of where the old retention mechanism was attached.

I removed the adhesive Velcro from the top of the frame as well as the "leather" material. It left quite a bit of adhesive residue on the material.

I purchased a piece of FRP trim from lowes that is meant to wrap around the end of fire resistant panel and two pieces of 1/16th aluminum. The FRP Trim fold back on itself about 3/8 inch, the photo looks like its the whole thing though. I cut the plastic strip to fit the space on the camper and the aluminum to the same length. I then trimmed the "leather" fabric to length with the tent fully deployed and folded the end around the aluminum strip and inserted it in to the FRP trim with it upside down. I then flipped the entire assembly over and I drilled holes that corresponded with the holes in the top edge of the camper and used #6 stainless screws to hold it down. With the fabric sandwiched around the aluminum and the screws clamping the aluminum down I expect this to be an effective repair until I get the correct parts and tent fabric to fix this properly.

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Old 07-01-2019, 12:08 PM   #14
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Additional Question I have now:

Does anyone else's camper sit a bit low on the slide out side (left to right, not front to back level)? I can understand that it adds weight and why it would do that. On perfectly level ground the trailer is not level I have to boost it a little over an inch to get level. Should it normally be level on flat ground?

I see nothing odd on the suspension underneath so thought I would ask here?
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