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02-17-2017, 04:31 PM
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Rear toy hauler popup
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02-17-2017, 04:38 PM
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Be a site to see when he gets to 65 mph, hope he does not hurt someone
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02-17-2017, 04:44 PM
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She is a jewel!
Now he just needs to figure out how to get out of the garage man door and go thru the gate into the backyard.
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02-17-2017, 04:49 PM
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Broken Toe
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I see those all the time around here. Unless he is hauling balloons, then I would say it needs another axle.
Tim
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02-17-2017, 04:59 PM
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How!
What kind of toy and How heavy is it?
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02-17-2017, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wobbles
She is a jewel!
Now he just needs to figure out how to get out of the garage man door and go thru the gate into the backyard.
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It's a four car garage and there is another man door to the backyard closer to the main house.
That's not the problem. I think that pup would sway terribly on the highway, even with a few ATVs on the rear.
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Trailer: Lifted 228BH, heavy duty springs and Yokohama tires DELAMINATED ROOF
TV: 2016 GMC Sierra Z71 4x4 CC, SLT
Spare TV: Two Alaskan Malamutes
Living somewhere in ID; previously lived in Moab UT; previous to that, don't ask!
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02-17-2017, 07:01 PM
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Location: Texas
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You should be a good neighbor and explain towing 101.
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02-17-2017, 07:24 PM
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I'm not, I mind my own business. But I did mention it looked an axle short.
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Trailer: Lifted 228BH, heavy duty springs and Yokohama tires DELAMINATED ROOF
TV: 2016 GMC Sierra Z71 4x4 CC, SLT
Spare TV: Two Alaskan Malamutes
Living somewhere in ID; previously lived in Moab UT; previous to that, don't ask!
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02-18-2017, 02:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Mohnton, PA
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Holy hitch weight!!
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02-18-2017, 09:18 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
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I’m not an engineer and know nothing about trailer dynamics but I don’t understand how you can determine, without knowing the loaded, unloaded, and hitch weights, that the trailer will be unstable with a single axle. Will someone, who is knowledgeable about this, please inform those of us who are less knowledgeable or as a previous poster stated “explain towing 101”.
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02-18-2017, 09:35 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Mohnton, PA
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The dimple fact is that it is not possible to tell accurately but the godl is to mostly balance the load with approximately 10% of the weight on the hitch. It is virtually impossible to achieve that with a trailer loaded like this.
Start with the fact that they started with a trailer that had an axle placed so that the trailer would be balanced properly with a normal load and add a full popup load in front of the axle, it is inconceivable that enough weight could be added behind the axle to balance the load and not overload the axle / tires under the loading!
Not physically possible!
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02-18-2017, 09:42 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Idaho
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Most all of the popup's weight is in front of the axle, nearly all of the weight of the toy is going to be behind the axle.
That's a lot of weight not directly over a supporting axle.
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02-18-2017, 09:48 PM
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Location: Mohnton, PA
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It should be roughly 60-70% in front and 30-40% behind.
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02-19-2017, 11:25 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Treasure Coast
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Big smile......
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02-19-2017, 12:41 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Idaho
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NorSnrub
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Some states that do not allow for pulling double trailers do consider that a trailer in itself and would be illegal.
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." 2014 19 days camping 2015 17 days camping201620 days camping
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02-19-2017, 07:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f5moab
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That's just an Accident waiting to happen?
I'm not Driving behind him no way.
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02-19-2017, 08:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
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Maybe I'm the odd one... I disagree. 10% is a minimum tongue weight. If his tow vehicle can handle the tongue weight, no problem. A semi has more than 10% tongue weight..... An accident waiting to happen? Why?
Of course I retract it all if there is an S10 anywhere around.
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02-20-2017, 11:36 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 331
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Acording to the ad, in my trailer life it is not considered a 2nd trailer because it is connected directly to trailer 1, look them up and read about it.
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