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Old 07-03-2015, 01:54 PM   #11
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well if you want to try and put the negative cable on any part of the frame when you disconnect it from the battery, go ahead. then it will be charged by the converter and if you're camping for any length of time, you'll be checking the level of electrolyte in the battery/batteries after a while. by touching the frame your batteries will still be connected as if you didn't disconnect the negative battery cable. If you want to charge the batteries from shore power then the cables have to be connected in order to use the converter. It seems we are not on the same page here. I was talking about when hooked up to shore power, you wouldn't have to worry about the converter continually charging the batteries. I was talking on the same lines as kinma13.
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Old 07-03-2015, 02:58 PM   #12
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well if you want to try and put the negative cable on any part of the frame when you disconnect it from the battery, go ahead. then it will be charged by the converter and if you're camping for any length of time, you'll be checking the level of electrolyte in the battery/batteries after a while. by touching the frame your batteries will still be connected as if you didn't disconnect the negative battery cable. If you want to charge the batteries from shore power then the cables have to be connected in order to use the converter. It seems we are not on the same page here. I was talking about when hooked up to shore power, you wouldn't have to worry about the converter continually charging the batteries. I was talking on the same lines as kinma13.
Here is your original statement, "When hooked up to shore power , disconnect the batteries either by a shut off switch or by disconnecting the negative side from the battery/batteries, making sure that the cable does not touch any metal on the trailer."

No, I guess we are not on the same page. If you disconnect the negative battery cable from the battery and lay that cable on the frame, where is the connection to the battery that will cause the battery to be charged? The cable is now connected to the frame on both ends; thus there is no circuit path to the battery(ies).

So, yes, I'm confused. Please let me know how a battery that no longer has a negative cable attached to it can be charged by the converter.

As for a converter possibly overcharging that is not true for all converters. For that reason the OP should check to see what his converter offers. Mine does a great job of charging the batteries on my unit. I have monitored the charge levels via a Trimeter meter and when first plugged in to an AC source, the converter goes to a high voltage for a set time, then drops to a trickle charge.

And only times I have had to add water was after the fluid had splashed out on some of the trails I have driven on, where the trailer was bouncing around on the holes, ledges, etc.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:18 PM   #13
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Well this is embarrassing f5moab you're right and I'm wrong. For some reason I was seeing in my mind different than what I was trying to explain. The kicker was when you said the cable is now connected on both ends. The light went on over my head and I now bow down to you. I was seeing the negative cable still connected to the battery and the other end on the frame and still continued on debating. I'm smelling wood burning and it's like being next to a campfire....where I will be on Sunday and it's making me crazier. I'm going to stand in a corner now.
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Don't stand in the corner! It was interesting and believe me, I have made mistakes too. I was just trying to understand. It's a holiday weekend, at least it is here, and your Canada day was just a few days ago.
Have another beer and relax. Heck, living in Windsor you can celebrate twice in one week. And those fireworks are great on the River.
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Yup and I hope all those people camping in the UP of Michigan leave me a spot. Heading up there Sunday morning at 0 dark 15. 8 hour drive from here. My better half will have medication for me while I set up...dark rum & coke. She makes good ones....I stood in the corner until you answered me... The fireworks started an hour early, in daylight, as there were storm warnings up. As it was, they would have been ok to start at 10 PM. Stay safe.
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I also use the battery tender plus got mine at Costco. Very reasonable to purchase and you really don't have watch for over charging. You can attach the charging cables to the batt but when your ready for a trip it has a disconnect option on the charging cable so that you can leave the battery clamps attached to the battery. Later RJD
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Yup and I hope all those people camping in the UP of Michigan leave me a spot. Heading up there Sunday morning at 0 dark 15. 8 hour drive from here. My better half will have medication for me while I set up...dark rum & coke. She makes good ones....I stood in the corner until you answered me... The fireworks started an hour early, in daylight, as there were storm warnings up. As it was, they would have been ok to start at 10 PM. Stay safe.
My mother came over from Windsor, and I actually grew up in Detroit; went to college while living in that area, then scooted out.

Is the Tunnel BBQ still around? Some great ribs there!

From what I can remember, if going to the UP this time of the year; take a lot of "OFF" to ward off the billion or so mosquitoes that will be looking for fresh blood.

Have fun in the UP.
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Good discussion, I am certainly going to get a tender. f5moab, I lived in Huntington Woods and Oak Park, Michigan from 1960-1969. I loved the international food festivals in downtown Detroit by the river. I fondly remember Belle Isle, learned to water ski up on a lake by Grayling. A good friend went to Wayne State, grew up with heroes like Al Kaline and Willie Horton. I went back for several years after that working summers cleaning swimming pools- did you ever cruise Woodward Avenue? I am saddened by the downturn in the city but some are rebuilding the inner city, hope to re-visit some day. The UP was definitely a wonderland; Mackinac Island was a great visit.
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Yes, drove Woodward ave many times, Totem Pole, Big Boys to Ted's,
As for Detroit....no desire to ever return to that place!
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Thanks for all the responses! I think? So the way I am understanding this is that I do NOT need a 12 volt battery connection to run the interior lighting as this is done by the converter/inverter? (when connected to shore power.) I have not yet disconnected the battery during hook up as this probably explains why the power lift is alittle slower when bringing the top back down.
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