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Old 05-09-2014, 01:02 AM   #11
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Think I'm okay on my calculations in this department but I appreciate the reminder!
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:11 AM   #12
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Today's update....I went to the public scale again today to measure tongue weight to see how it differed from the Hitch Dealer/Installer's tongue scale. The public scale measured 540 lbs. Much closer to what I expected although still 40 lbs higher than the max rating. I think I might take off one propane tank (approx 40 lbs), transport it in the pup, and then load as much gear (read "weight") behind the axle as possible (not much storage inside the rear of the pup). I'll do my best to keep the front storage locker as light weighted with gear as possible.

I thank each of you so much for your advice and wisdom. It means a lot to me that you took the time to help this newbie!
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:12 AM   #13
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Update

Here's what I discovered following our first trip.

The tongue weight ended up being 550 lbs.
The trailer pulled like a dream in all conditions (big rigs passing us both directions, 9,000 ft above sea level, etc.).
I don't need two propane tanks so I will eliminate one and adjust some other gear and get the tongue weight down to 500 lbs to be totally safe long term.

Thanks again, everyone!
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:33 AM   #14
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If it pulled great why get rid of stuff?
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:33 PM   #15
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If it pulled great why get rid of stuff?
My thinking is that the maximum recommended tongue weight for the tow vehicle and hitch receiver is 500 lbs so it would be better long term to get closer to that weight vs. the current 550 lbs. At 550 lbs the tongue weight to trailer weight ratio is 17% (assuming I get the trailer weight down to the recommended 3,250 lbs). If I get the tongue weight down to 500 lbs the ratio is 15% which is in the range of the 13%-15% I see recommended for tongue weight.

Also, the trailer axle weight is maxed out at its 3,000 lbs, the trailer itself is at 3,400 lbs (rated for 3,250 lbs), and the tow vehicle is at 5,850 lbs (rated for 6,000 lbs). And our next trip I am adding my two daughters and their gear. So, I'll be pushing or above recommended numbers on the tow rig.

The question is...am I being too "numbers driven" and shouldn't worry about it? Being a "newbie" to towing, I sure don't know!
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Old 06-03-2014, 05:35 PM   #16
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I would agree, get the tongue weight down to the max. rating. Hard to tell what the fudge factor is (if there is one) in the actual tongue weight rating from the manufacturer.
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The question is...am I being too "numbers driven" and shouldn't worry about it? Being a "newbie" to towing, I sure don't know!
In my opinion, yes. But it's your rig, do as you wish. It's not like you're 1,000lbs over or even 100 so it's not a big concern to me. Don't go crazy from here, but I wouldn't leave my LPG tank at home.
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:34 PM   #18
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I think we should always strive to be within the "safe" ranges for our TT and TVs, but I will admit if I'm a percent or two over I'm not going to worry about it. Like many have said before, manufacturers have accounted an overage factor in and just because you exceed the weight by a tiny (I said TINY...) amount then it won't do any harm. Not like your wheels are going to fall off or your axle is going to bend or snap just because you get to that max number plus one. However if your vehicle/TT is within factory warranty, I would be more tempted not to exceed any of the given ranges. Better safe than sorry.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:39 AM   #19
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Thoughtful responses. Thank you!
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You're going with a single propane tank instead of two, correct? If so, that's a good move, IMO, to reduce some TW. I see little reason the carry two full propane tanks if a TV is anywhere close to its max TW.
We camped 32 nights last year and didn't go through 2 bottles (limited furnace use, however).
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