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Old 07-06-2014, 06:13 PM   #51
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I've read numerous news stories about pits mauling children and adults, some victims dying.

I've read news articles where ferrets attack babies.

Don't like them either....don't want to be around them. Besides, they stink. /snort

No, profiling dogs isn't the same as racism between humans. Not IMO.

While I maintain that my dog is gentle spirited, I am *always* cautious with him while we're camping. He's a "kid magnet" in campgrounds and I will stop them in their tracks if a group of children come rushing up to pet him. I know my dog's body language. He drops his head and his tail, which tells me he's intimidated or frightened when kids rush up to him like that, *especially* when they rush up on bicycles.

I'll never understand why parents do not teach their kids to NOT rush up to strange dogs like that. Since most don't, it's MY place at that point, to try to educate them. At times it's even inside our camp site that this happens.
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Old 07-06-2014, 07:19 PM   #52
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While I agree that a dog behaves differently in a campground at home and that you do not know a dogs history therefore you should not trust it. I also agree kids should not rush up to a dog they do not know and I teach my dd this. My argument is that you should not treat one breed different than another.

Fyi here is the definition of prejudice per Merriam Webster online
:1prej·u·dice noun \ˈpre-jə-dəs\
: an unfair feeling of dislike for a person or group because of race, sex, religion, etc.

: a feeling of like or dislike for someone or something especially when it is not reasonable or logical

2prej·u·dice verb \ˈpre-jə-dəs\
: to cause (someone) to have an unfair feeling of dislike for someone or something

: to have a harmful effect on (something, such as a legal case)


So yes, saying I dont want a large breed or pit dog next to me but a small breed dog is ok is a form of breed prejudice.
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Old 07-06-2014, 07:29 PM   #53
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While I agree that a dog behaves differently in a campground at home and that you do not know a dogs history therefore you sho not trust it. I also agree kids should not rush up to a dog they do not know and I teach my dd this. My argument is that you should not treat one breed different than another.

Fyi here is the definition of prejudice per Merriam Webster online
:1prej·u·dice noun \ˈpre-jə-dəs\
: an unfair feeling of dislike for a person or group because of race, sex, religion, etc.

: a feeling of like or dislike for someone or something especially when it is not reasonable or logical

2prej·u·dice verb \ˈpre-jə-dəs\
: to cause (someone) to have an unfair feeling of dislike for someone or something

: to have a harmful effect on (something, such as a legal case)


So yes, saying I dont want a large breed or pit dog next to me but a small breed dog is ok is a form of breed prejudice.
Wow. Really? Is this what this thread is coming to? Everyone has their own opinion. Can people agree to disagree or is someone going to have to be beat into submission?
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Old 07-06-2014, 07:29 PM   #54
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Old 07-06-2014, 08:01 PM   #55
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Wow. Really? Is this what this thread is coming to? Everyone has their own opinion. Can people agree to disagree or is someone going to have to be beat into submission?

I won't be beaten in submission over my dislike of a dog breed, or my preference to not being in close proximity to them. /snark

Remember, my name IS Weezer.

I'd consider myself STUPID if I did NOT conduct myself differently around say....a massive PIT BULL, versus MY OWN SMALL DOG.

I said NOTHING about whether I would like or dislike camping next to a small dog breed.

: a feeling of like or dislike for someone or something especially when it is not reasonable or logical

A LONG history of people being harmed and/or killed by Pit Bulls IS proof enough that it is NOT ILLOGICAL for me to prefer not to camp next to one. Nor is my preference unreasonable. It's called a natural instinct for self preservation and protection of the small dog that depends on me.

Last I checked, canines don't have a Bill of Rights. No matter how much we love Fred and treat him much like we would a child....HE IS A DOG.

Friends of ours in FL have owned Great Danes for years. They visited us here once, with the most gentle "house horse" we've ever known. Here, the Dane and our Cocker got along "ok". Then we went to visit THEM with our cocker. As soon as we rang the doorbell on arrival and they opened the door, that Dane shot out the door and grabbed our cocker (had her on a leash), bit totally through her back and was frantically slinging her in the typical "kill shake". She was seriously injured, requiring emergency vet care and ended up with tubes running from one side of her body and out the other. The Dane was protecting HIS home and HIS people. You can NOT predict the behavior of DOGS. PERIOD
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I will say it again. It is not by breed but any dog small or big. I have had a Scotty try to attack my daughter when she was 2 and sitting in a stroller not even taunting or touching the dog. The Scotty unprovoked and on a leash broke free from his 85 yr old owner who used a walker while walking the dog. Fortunately, my old lab mix positioned herself between the Scotty and my daughter taking the brunt of the attack and then pushing the Scotty to the ground. I still to this day know that not all scotties are like this but this also is not a large breed dog and was not out of his element or on his own property, just walking the neighborhood. I knew the owner and we resolved it amicably. I also helped him and his daughter learn how to better train the dog to prevent a future problem. Again, it is not always the big dog to worry about. My sole point is to get you to understand the issue can be any dog or any handler and not punish a specific breed based upon myths and prejudices. I do not expect you to be comfortable or trust any dog you do not know. Nor do I want to beat anyone into submission or agreement. I believe more in education. I understand you and I will not agree on this topic, I just ask you open your mind enough to look past the misconceptions and understand a little more truth about the breed.
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Anaro, I don't believe any amount of education about breeds will overpower their own personal experiences. JMO
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Not taking a pro or con stance on the dog breed issue, but this is an informative site:

2013 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org

As with everything on the web, I would independently verify the numbers.

WARNING: It's heartbreaking to see the pics of the kids if you scroll the entire page.
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Anaro, I don't believe any amount of education about breeds will overpower their own personal experiences. JMO
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FTR, our friends who own and breed the Old English Mastiffs have both on primeses, WITH the eight pups.

The Mom weighs 108 lbs. and as I said Dad weighs 200 lbs. (I know Mom's weight exactly because I helped carry Mom and the pups to the vet Friday morning and helped with pups while Mom was weighed.) They only have a small Ford Ranger with no topper. They used my Jeep (back seat removed) to put a large pet crate in for the pups.

Last Saturday BOTH of them decided my lap "needed sittin' in" ...at the same time!

It's not that I'm "prejudiced" against large dogs. Nor am I "prejudiced" against small or medium dogs. I heed my own better judgment regarding breeds with a (long) history for aggressive behavior. That is my right, and it is NOT based on MYTHS.
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