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Old 09-23-2015, 09:33 AM   #51
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That's what we do when traveling with our boys.
But while at The Arches NP in Utah we were told by a tree hugger that
we were spoiling the air by letting my diesel run to keeping the boys cool.
This was at a turn off on a mountain top.
MOAB! There are quite a few tree huggers that live and visit Moab. Have to learn to ignore them or baffle them.

I used to get the statement that I was selfish for driving a Hummer, my usual reply was to look at my wristwatch for about 10 seconds, look back up at them and clearly state, "sorry, I don't seem to have the time to give a ____." (You can fill in the blank.)

They also congregate in BLM campgrounds. Of course they are in tents, and they look down upon us with tent campers, I can only imagine what they think of large fifth wheels. But they always have the largest fires of all in the campground.
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MOAB! There are quite a few tree huggers that live and visit Moab. Have to learn to ignore them or baffle them.

I used to get the statement that I was selfish for driving a Hummer, my usual reply was to look at my wristwatch for about 10 seconds, look back up at them and clearly state, "sorry, I don't seem to have the time to give a ____." (You can fill in the blank.)

They also congregate in BLM campgrounds. Of course they are in tents, and they look down upon us with tent campers, I can only imagine what they think of large fifth wheels. But they always have the largest fires of all in the campground.
Maybe I should of camped in the Arches park with my 5er (if it would fit) and run my genny all day.
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That's what we do with addi when traveling.
Leave vehicle running with key and take the fob.
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We always take our little Jack Russell boy with us. This year we added 2 little Yorkie girls. We usually go to a fast food place for lunch while traveling are grab something at the truck stop and pull aside for a little while while we eat. But my favorite is when we can find someplace with outdoor seating some rest stops have them. I will make lunch for all 5 of us and let the fur babies get some exercise while we eat.. IF we HAVE to go to a store that does not allow animals, 0one of us stays in the truck and the other goes shopping. WE DO NOT LEAVE THEM ALONE UNLESS THEY ARE IN THE TT.
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:13 PM   #56
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careful in Florida ...technically still illegal to leave a pet in vehicle even if running ... don't shoot the messenger!
In hot weather with the dogs I would leave the locked truck running rather leave it with the windows cracked open.
I hear in Arizona some stores allow dogs in their stores rather leaving them out in the cars.
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I can say that when visiting Moab UT, the majority of the small establishments along main street will allow a dog in the stores, and I used to take my dogs into Wells Fargo Bank on main street all the time.

I have used the remote start in my Silverado twice when in Moab and with auto AC, the AC will run to cool down the vehicle. So there have been two times I have closed the windows, remote started the vehicle and walked away; it will run for 10 minutes. One time I got tied up in a checkout line and had to remote start the vehicle a second time. You are allowed two times before it needs to be reset.

But a Moab LEO told me once, if the windows are halfway down in the back, we can see if the dog is in distress; with the windows up, we don't know especially now that almost all vehicles have tinted back windows, and we don't know if the AC is on or not; but we can see a dog in the back and some dogs will just lay down till the owner returns. So, is it in distress or not?

For single people traveling with dog(s) it can get pretty tricky when needing to go into a store or rest area. For me, traveling food is found in a service station; and I have found rest areas usually faster than a service station.
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Maybe I should of camped in the Arches park with my 5er (if it would fit) and run my genny all day.
Looking at NM for next year, I can work in some quality time for my 6.4 and big caged generator In UT. with no issues.

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Looking at NM for next year, I can work in some quality time for my 6.4 and big caged generator In UT. with no issues.

For the largest number of tree huggers, do the Colorado River campgrounds managed by BLM. Granstaf 2nd campground from Hwy 191 is usually loaded with them.

If doing Arches, get your reservations as soon as possible when they open them up. They are always packed.
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So put in a request to my favorite person (who does the legal confiscation of the pets from closed vehicles down here in sunny Florida) and she just has the short list of items to act on .... can get the actual statute for any nonbeliever.


'If someone leaves their pet in a running car with A/C on, they can be in violation of Improper Transportation in a Motor Vehicle' to quote ... she says that if she finds herself in the situation described here she will leave a note on her windshield with the time she left the vehicle & exactly where she can be found (Bathroom, paying for gas....) but states that she could still be charged.


If you live down here you may have experienced some of these events .... just 10 days ago had one pup live & one died .... owner from out of state .... ignorance is no excuse and this is going forward under animal cruelty. Just because you can't find the law does not mean it doesn't exist .... fair warning all you snowbirds flooding in over the next couple months ....
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