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04-24-2013, 06:17 PM
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Ttrost65 what are you towing with?
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04-24-2013, 06:30 PM
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Signature says it all.
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04-24-2013, 08:06 PM
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What about a 3/4 Ton and a sandpiper/Sierra 365 saq ? That is the other camper I am thinking about.
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04-24-2013, 08:10 PM
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Isn't the 365saq more weight then the sabre all the way around ?
Higher pin weight but SLIGHTLY lower ship weight.
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04-24-2013, 08:18 PM
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Brandon, if you PM golfmedic (I think- check the 365SAQ threads for the right name)... he's done extensive weighing of his rig and can provide you guidance on actual weights.
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04-24-2013, 08:21 PM
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I thought it was about the same weight or a little less for some reason. I will have to go back and look.
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04-24-2013, 09:45 PM
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Ok, I've moved the portion of the thread where we're discussing/debating "staying within specs vs. exceeding them" to it's own thread ( seen here).
I apologize in advance if I was biased in my editing of this thread and made it appear that "staying within specs" is the only answer. That was not my intention.
dustman_stx makes some excellent points.
Doug
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04-24-2013, 09:49 PM
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Did someone just delete 2 pages of good popcorn fodder?
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04-24-2013, 09:51 PM
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Yes. And, I've separated the debate/discussion thread into it's own since I was a major hijacker of this original thread.
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04-24-2013, 10:01 PM
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Yes. And, I've separated the debate/discussion thread into it's own since I was a major hijacker of this original thread.
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Probably the right thing to do. My answer to the OP's original question....I am not, and from all the discussion here, havent yet heard from anyone else that is.
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04-24-2013, 10:04 PM
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Just looking at the advertised pin weights for all the sabre 5ers they are all about 1800 -2000 lbs. what is the average available payload of a 2/4 ton truck.
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04-24-2013, 10:07 PM
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Just looking at the advertised pin weights for all the sabre 5ers they are all about 1800 -2000 lbs. what is the average available payload of a 2/4 ton truck.
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LOL....you thinking about seeing if a 150/1500 will work???? Lets not go there...
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04-24-2013, 10:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon327
Just looking at the advertised pin weights for all the sabre 5ers they are all about 1800 -2000 lbs. what is the average available payload of a 2/4 ton truck.
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Just remember, the advertised pin weight is artificially and unrealistically low.
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04-24-2013, 10:33 PM
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To answer the second part of your question- I don't know what 3/4-ton trucks payloads typically run.
As well, I think I mentioned before- I was surprised how much payload my add-one and family ate up per my scale receipts.
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04-24-2013, 10:35 PM
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I know they are low. If you use real world pin weights then a 3/4 on truck is not capable of pulling anything more than an atv trailer by the time you add people and a hitch . A regular gooseneck trailer unloaded probally exceeds the the payload of most. 3/4 ton trucks.
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04-24-2013, 10:40 PM
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You're probably very right. I've read here that most people with 3/4 ton trucks exceed GVWR but are comfortable as long as they're under the rear axle and tire weight ratings.
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04-24-2013, 10:48 PM
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Wish I would have taken a picture of my '10 F250 sticker, but I want to say available was somewhere in the 2300 lb. range. I could be way off base here though.
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04-24-2013, 11:57 PM
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... but are comfortable as long as they're under the rear axle and tire weight ratings.
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Is that not what is the limiting factor? If the trailer is level and the truck is level and the tire/axle limits are not exceeded what is the problem if the eng will pull it?
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04-25-2013, 09:08 AM
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Is that not what is the limiting factor? If the trailer is level and the truck is level and the tire/axle limits are not exceeded what is the problem if the eng will pull it?
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There's already a thread on exceeding ratings or not. Let's keep that discussion there.
Thanks.
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04-25-2013, 09:33 AM
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Not enough truck.
1 ton dually my friend.
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Please don't just conclude that if you need a 1-ton that it needs to be a dually. Going to a 1-ton adds about 1000# of payload, and going DRW adds another 1000#. If you need 1000 more, but not 2000 more, then you don't have to go dually!
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