6.7 Cummins (2012) or 6.7 Ford (2011)

[BigBaron]

Does the Cummins use DEF? I'm new to all this.

[B47]

Originally Posted by BigBaron

Does the Cummins use DEF? I'm new to all this.

My 2012 Ram 3/4 ton with the Cummins 6.7 does not.

[Rolling buckeye]

Originally Posted by 5verdriver

Funny how that works....
I've owned nothing but Ford trucks all my life (and come to think of it, so did my late father). Having said that, I never put more than a couple alternators or front suspension components, besides regular maint. stuff. The truck I traded in toward the one I have now, had the 5.4 gas with 120,000 and had no issues with the plugs etc... like "They" said I would.
Having just come back from Disney's Fort Wilderness, I would conservatively say the ratio ( for large fifth wheel campers ) of Ford SD 6.7's was something like 6/10, and the rest 3/10 GMC/Chevy and Dodge bringing up the rear. Just saying, not bashing .
I would say too that Ford has done a great job quieting down these motors. It was much nicer not having to listen to the louder, older diesels of yesterday. DuraMax and Cummins will respond to this matter sooner than later, I'm sure.

I am glad you have been fortunate. My DF still drives a V 10 f 250,and has only had one Chevy truck as long as I can remember. I put a lot of miles on my work trucks. Actually 1200000 is not all that many mi. and that was a gas engine,the cylinder pressure,and fuel pressures are much different,compared to diesel. The ratio of those who will Not trade those SD's and D Max trucks before they reach 200+ thousand mi.is maybe 1 in 10. (I know I can't back that up with any real numbers) but you know what I mean. Point is if you are going to keep a diesel trk for a long time, I promise you will spend more keeping the ford on the road. Just my bs opinion !
If you are going to trade at 80-100 th mi. take you're pick, it doesn't matter. If you can pull what you need with a gas motor,that is the most economical.
Good luck and enjoy,whatever the choice!

[Rolling buckeye]

Originally Posted by BigBaron

Does the Cummins use DEF? I'm new to all this.

Not yet, it is rumored the 2014 will though. Mine uses diesel in regen. I now have 6500 mi .and have not had a regen cycle. The truck does pull very reg.,like every or every other day.

[5verdriver]

Originally Posted by Rolling buckeye

Not yet, it is rumored the 2014 will though. Mine uses diesel in regen. I now have 6500 mi .and have not had a regen cycle. The truck does pull very reg.,like every or every other day.

I think Dodge will have DEF for their 14's. Last year, a Dodge dealer salesman told me that because Dodge/Cummins didn't make the 'deadline' for the EPA, that Dodge would be cutting a $4500 check ( to the feds )for every diesel truck they sold, until they become compliant.

[Road-King]

I thought the 13's used DEF. Also just a FYI, they are no longer "Dodge Rams". They are "Ram Trucks" and are their own division now.

Or so I've been told...

[iceblaze580]

I just bought a 2013 and it uses DEF

[B47]

Originally Posted by Road-King

I thought the 13's used DEF. Also just a FYI, they are no longer "Dodge Rams". They are "Ram Trucks" and are their own division now.

Or so I've been told...

Mine says Ram on the outside and in all the manuals, but the little tray in the center top of the dash says Dodge

[Scott Colegrove]

I believe that if you check the ram with the cummins only has the Aisin trans if you buy a 4500/5500 The smaller rams do not get this trans. I have 2 new dodges with it but they are both 5500's. As far as def, early 2500's didn't use it, but, now they all do. My new F250 will run over 5k on 5 gals of def. Yes it is just one more thing to cost money and to have to work on, however, it is part of the epa and at least it doesn't use a lot and it is fairly inexpensive. If you have an oil supplier near you, give them a call and ask about buying it. I get it for 7.00 per 2.5 gal jug

[Rolling buckeye]

Originally Posted by B47

Mine says Ram on the outside and in all the manuals, but the little tray in the center top of the dash says Dodge

X2 mine too
Sticker says mine was made. 12-12-12 ?
Does the. 13 ?

[B47]

Originally Posted by Rolling buckeye

X2 mine too
Sticker says mine was made. 12-12-12 ?
Does the. 13 ?

Well Thank Goddness it doesn't say "Ford" or "Chevrolet"

[Scratch]

Originally Posted by Rolling buckeye

I put a lot of miles on my work trucks. Actually 1200000 is not all that many mi.

To me, one million, two hundred thousand seems like a lot of miles. Unless, of course, it is in a Dodge Ram...

Just 59,000 miles in my '12 F-250; but they have been trouble free...

[turnerpa]

Originally Posted by Scott Colegrove

I believe that if you check the ram with the cummins only has the Aisin trans if you buy a 4500/5500 The smaller rams do not get this trans. I have 2 new dodges with it but they are both 5500's. As far as def, early 2500's didn't use it, but, now they all do. My new F250 will run over 5k on 5 gals of def. Yes it is just one more thing to cost money and to have to work on, however, it is part of the epa and at least it doesn't use a lot and it is fairly inexpensive. If you have an oil supplier near you, give them a call and ask about buying it. I get it for 7.00 per 2.5 gal jug

My 2013 dodge ram 2500hd work truck made 4/13 uses def and my new 2013 f-250 personal truck uses def. As far as the aisin tranny goes, yes you can get it in the 3500 with the high output diesel but that's kinda a thing you have to order because it boosts the rated cap so high that if you fully load it to the max you have to have a CDL to tow it!! So needless to say since most people don't have a CDL I'm thinking they aren't going to be having many of those on the lots!!

[Rolling buckeye]

Originally Posted by Scratch

To me, one million, two hundred thousand seems like a lot of miles. Unless, of course, it is in a Dodge Ram...

Just 59,000 miles in my '12 F-250; but they have been trouble free...

Happy for you.and I wish you continued good service. at 59000 on a 12 you are well on you're way to a lot o miles !
The question was asked,and I gave my opinion. Is this you're first diesel truck ? Please let us know when you reach the 150-175,000 mi mark,
Do you have a Ford diesel pu with one million two hundred mi.??

[Scratch]

Originally Posted by Rolling buckeye

Is this you're first diesel truck ? Please let us know when you reach the 150-175,000 mi mark,
Do you have a Ford diesel pu with one million two hundred mi.??

My second diesel; the first was a 2003 Ford F250.

I was pulling your chain (good naturedly) concerning your 1200000 quote. Think you added one too many zeroes...

[Rolling buckeye]

Originally Posted by Scratch

My second diesel; the first was a 2003 Ford F250.

I was pulling your chain (good naturedly) concerning your 1200000 quote. Think you added one too many zeroes...

Oh... whoops, lol !
How far did you take the 03,? And was it 7.3 or 6.0? I tried going back from 06 to an 03, but it was the 6.0. I really wish I would have found an 03 with the 7.3
(Wow ! That's a lot of jumbled #'s). There are days when I miss my old ford,usually, around when I'm about to make the payment on the new Ram !
Seriously, I do wish you continued good service out of you're truck, I would not wish the cost and aggravation I dealt with on anyone !..... Well most anyone. Lol !

[Scratch]

It was a 6.0 and we got good service out of it; however, we had it less than two years when we traded it and the 5er for a class A rig. As I recall, I only had about 20,000 miles on the truck when we traded. Guess I've been pretty fortunate in terms of TV issues (Scratch sez as he knocks on wood )...

[Rolling buckeye]

Originally Posted by Scratch

It was a 6.0 and we got good service out of it; however, we had it less than two years when we traded it and the 5er for a class A rig. As I recall, I only had about 20,000 miles on the truck when we traded. Guess I've been pretty fortunate in terms of TV issues (Scratch sez as he knocks on wood )...

Fingers crossed !
Safe travels Scratch !

[Lsaunders113]

I have a 13 f350 srw crew cab longbox with the 6.7 and love it. this thing has plenty of power. its all on what you prefer. I was raised in a ford family so i'm a ford guy. my father in law is a chevy guy and my cousins are chevy guys. they all have duramax's and love them. I would drive all 3 and price all three apples to apples with the warranties they offer and go from there. the thing I don't like about the dodges that I love about my ford is the power mirrors. just push a button and they extend out. dodge you have to move them by hand.

[B47]

Originally Posted by Lsaunders113

I have a 13 f350 srw crew cab longbox with the 6.7 and love it. this thing has plenty of power. its all on what you prefer. I was raised in a ford family so i'm a ford guy. my father in law is a chevy guy and my cousins are chevy guys. they all have duramax's and love them. I would drive all 3 and price all three apples to apples with the warranties they offer and go from there. the thing I don't like about the dodges that I love about my ford is the power mirrors. just push a button and they extend out. dodge you have to move them by hand.

Yeah - pushing and pulling those mirrors is a lot of work

Seriously though, I wish my 2012 Ram did have that feature.