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Old 07-31-2013, 11:27 PM   #1
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6.7 Cummins (2012) or 6.7 Ford (2011)

Which would be the better engine? I am torn, narrowing down my choices between a 2011 Ford F350 Lariat SRW or a 2012 Dodge Laramie 2500. I like both trucks and feel they are capable of doing what I need it to do. The 2011 comes equipped with the factory FW and the 2012 would have to have it installed. The 2011 is about $8250 cheaper but think I may be able to get them down on the 2012 Dodge. Which engine is more reliable and will cost me less in service in the long run? Do they both require DEF?
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:33 PM   #2
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Which would be the better engine? I am torn, narrowing down my choices between a 2011 Ford F350 Lariat SRW or a 2012 Dodge Laramie 2500. I like both trucks and feel they are capable of doing what I need it to do. The 2011 comes equipped with the factory FW and the 2012 would have to have it installed. The 2011 is about $9000 cheaper but think I may be able to get them down on the 2012 Dodge. Which engine is more reliable and will cost me less in service in the long run? Do they both require DEF?
Regarding the DEF question, our 2012 Ram 2500 3/4 ton pickup with the Cummins 6.7 diesel does not require DEF.
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Old 08-01-2013, 12:12 AM   #3
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If I was in your shoes I would choose the cummins. Not saying the ford is a bad choice but the cummins engines are very reliable. Both have close to the same power ratings but my vote still goes to cummins.
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Old 08-01-2013, 12:21 AM   #4
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The Ford will require DEF, but that 6.7 is a strong motor. The F350 will also have more payload capacity than the Dodge, but if you're in your numbers that won't be an issue. I'd drive each of them and buy the one you feel drives the best. I don't think you'll go wrong with either one.
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My V8 2011 F250 with the 6.7 is rated at 400 hp, 800 ft/lbs. (I don't think the cummings 6 cylnder is even close). With a 3.31:1 axle ratio and after 20,000 miles I say that I use about a 21/2 gallon jug of DEF fluid that cost $12 at Walmart about every 2000 miles.
I've had no problems, gets around 18-20 mpg, towing a 11K lbs gets around 11 mpg.
I'd buy the one that has cooled and heated seats. This time of year I love the air conditioned seats that my Ford came with.
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:23 AM   #6
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They are both good trucks and as was told to you before in your other posts about opinions on trucks, make sure the 3/4 ton meets all your required specs and then it comes down to which one you like the best.
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:23 AM   #7
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My V8 2011 F250 with the 6.7 is rated at 400 hp, 800 ft/lbs. (I don't think the cummings 6 cylnder is even close). With a 3.31:1 axle ratio and after 20,000 miles I say that I use about a 21/2 gallon jug of DEF fluid that cost $12 at Walmart about every 2000 miles.
I've had no problems, gets around 18-20 mpg, towing a 11K lbs gets around 11 mpg.
I'd buy the one that has cooled and heated seats. This time of year I love the air conditioned seats that my Ford came with.

Uh... the cummins produces the exact same amount of power... Except it is doing it with 6 cylinders rather than 8... far less moving components which to me translates into reliability...

I would highly doubt there are any new diesels out getting 18-20 on a regular basis. That would require such a light foot at ALL times... I average that with mine driving 60 miles a day but I don't have any of the emissions crap on the newer ones and I have done a few other mods to improve the mileage... I would assume that if you are truly getting those numbers they are coming from the computer of the truck with is always know to be high! If that's the case I get 24.2MPG with mine!


Back to the question at hand, I would suggest the cummins for a couple of reasons! First off the 2012 cummins without the DEF is going to be the truck to have! It is going to be the truck just before another emissions addition and come time to sell or trade the truck and people looking for a diesel will be looking for exactly that! (I bought my 2006 because it is the last full year of the 5.9 before they switched to the more powerful but restricted 6.7) I also suggest the cummins because of the simplicity of the motor in comparisons to the competition which is running v8 diesels vs dodges Inline 6. Fewer moving parts and simpler design screams reliability...

They will be pretty much the same, as they all really are and it comes down to preference really is all...
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I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this process. What you thought about each after test driving them both, etc. then why you choose one over the other.
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My V8 2011 F250 with the 6.7 is rated at 400 hp, 800 ft/lbs. (I don't think the cummings 6 cylnder is even close). With a 3.31:1 axle ratio and after 20,000 miles I say that I use about a 21/2 gallon jug of DEF fluid that cost $12 at Walmart about every 2000 miles.
I've had no problems, gets around 18-20 mpg, towing a 11K lbs gets around 11 mpg.
I'd buy the one that has cooled and heated seats. This time of year I love the air conditioned seats that my Ford came with.
These comments always crack me up. First off, Cummings is a brand clothes for fat kids they used to make in Arkansas. Cummins (note the lack of a letter "g") is one of the oldest most respected makers of diesel engines in the world.

You might want to look at a few spec sheets before making a statement like that. Although the Big 3 like to one up each other every year or two, Cummins has traditionally produced higher torque numbers than Powerstroke year to year comparison. The differences are usually not significant. You comment that they are "not even close" is propaganda. In the past 10 years neither the Duramax, Powerstroke or Cummins have been "not even close" to each other. They are always within a small margin for rated torque value.

As a Ford driver, I would get the Cummins.
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I chose the Dodge Cummins when I purchased our in 2011. I figured that the main components to the engine as been around for years and has been throughly tested by every owner prior to me. These things haven't changed much, in fact the older 5.9L are probably better then the newer 6.7L engines do to the newer smog restrictions. Mine has only (Ha) 650 ftlbs of torgue (they upped the torgue to 800 ftlbs later that year) put pulls like a scolded pig. This thing has power. It gets 17mph on the highway and pulls our trailer at 12.5 to 13 mph. It has an engine brake feature that when used with the tow/ haul mode allows the engine drag to slow things down. This is a brake saver, I have gone down some pretty steep windy roads while towing and never had to touch the brakes. I don't know much about the Fords but I chose the cummins because of it's proven track record. I am glad I did, it is a great truck.
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