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Old 02-07-2013, 12:33 AM   #21
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Rescan... I'm glad one of the posters in your links mentioned it, Lou. The television channel setup doesn't realize that we rotated our antenna and that different channels are now available and some no longer.

I forgot to mention that my cousin and I had to rescan every time we played around with some new direction offered as a possibility by my Sensar Pro wallplate's signal meter.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:29 AM   #22
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Not sure if this is correct or not but I was told that some models of TV are better than others when it comes to getting more & clearer pictures.

After installing the Wingman I get clearer pictures but seem to get less channels than before. But then I haven't put a lot of effort into trouble shooting yet either.
The Wingman makes the antenna directional for maximum range and channel reception/clarity. You need to use a program like AntennaWeb - Home for the internet or Towers App for the iPhone to tell you where to point the antenna elements at the station's transmission TOWER.

The tower may not be in the same place for all channels. So, for example to watch channel 3.1 you may need to point it north east and to watch 6.1 to the north west. The apps have a satellite (google earth maps) view with aiming lines overlaid so you can aim the antenna at a tree or building close to your camper and along that line.

I will work on some screen captures to show you what I mean.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:44 AM   #23
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Antennaweb Screen shots

Here are some screen shots from the FAMCAMP at MacDill AFB (where we are headed) and the aim points for several channels in the Tampa-St Pete area.

NOTE: if you are aimed in the general direction of Tampa, you won't get a lot of channels, and you MAY miss out on some programming in the opposite direction since the signals will not be amplified. The TOWERS are not in town!

Many folks don't know that there are VHF digital channels and they are also still directional. UHF Digital channels (the most since that band is new) used to be NOT directional, but with very reduced range. With the Wingman or Sensar IV the range is now the same as the VHF "Bat Wings."
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:26 AM   #24
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Just thought this would also make some good reading; as I had compared the Sensar III with the Sensar IV
Comparing TV antennas- my results

I have been helping a friend shop for a trailer recently, and I have also been surprised at seeing so many with the Sensar III still. Yes, I know it is cheaper. However I paid $70 for my Sensar IV head, so on a $15,000 trailer the cost difference cannot be significant.

What should be fun is my buddy's new Grey Wolf has a different antenna than the ones I had previously tested. Once I have some new results I will be sure to update my thread.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:33 AM   #25
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If you have not looked at the PDF on moding your camper's antenna crank with a clear plastic circular protractor (below post). Just orient the zero degree mark with North, then refer to the station print out to fine tune the antenna.
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Not sure if this is correct or not but I was told that some models of TV are better than others when it comes to getting more & clearer pictures.
I agree, tv prices for a certain size can vary. KMart can sell an no name 27" tv for alot cheaper than Best Buy sells a 27" name brand. The reason for this, quality of componants. The most important actual part of the tv for receiving a signal is the tuner. Cheaper tv probably has a cheaper tuner that won't pick up channels as well as a tv with a decent tuner.
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it may be that the iv has a better amplifier than the 3. that would make it pull in more channels. if it only cost $15 more for the 4, i would go for it.

had a chance to talk to some emplyoees form our local tv station tonight. according to them, they still broadcast on the vhf band. my second question was if i tuned to chanel 7 here and went to another area, would the freq be the same. did not get a clear answer on that.
digital signals seem to act like they are on a much higher freq. ie aiming has to be more precise. that would also be the case if they were using a narrower bandwidth. the old channels were 6mhz. they may be putting several in that same space now.
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it may be that the iv has a better amplifier than the 3. that would make it pull in more channels. if it only cost $15 more for the 4, i would go for it.
Jim,

The IV has the same amp internals as the III; it just has the external UHF focusing elements permanently mounted to the while plastic amplifier head.

The III can easily be converter to the IV by adding the Wingman Adapter.

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The IV has the same amp internals as the III; it just has the external UHF focusing elements permanently mounted to the while plastic amplifier head.

The III can easily be converter to the IV by adding the Wingman Adapter.

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thats good. i would prefer the better antenna to a amplifier. (not that i don't want both).

when we camp in TN, we are on the fringe for several (all) the stations. the add on strip helps enough to be noticed on a signal strength meter.
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The Wingman makes the antenna directional for maximum range and channel reception/clarity. You need to use a program like AntennaWeb - Home for the internet or Towers App for the iPhone to tell you where to point the antenna elements at the station's transmission TOWER.

The tower may not be in the same place for all channels. So, for example to watch channel 3.1 you may need to point it north east and to watch 6.1 to the north west. The apps have a satellite (google earth maps) view with aiming lines overlaid so you can aim the antenna at a tree or building close to your camper and along that line.

I will work on some screen captures to show you what I mean.
Thanks Herk! I was going about it wrong with the "one stop" position. Even worst, without any programs like AntennaWeb.
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