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02-09-2013, 09:56 AM
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Columbus 302 rs
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Right now in Winchester Va.
Posts: 112
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Columbus LED lighting
I thought LED lights were good for years of use.
We've had one completely fail since buying our unit late last August and now another is still burning but at about half intensity with all LED's lit.
I need to check and see if these are covered by the warranty, not the same as regular light bulbs for sure and not cheap.
We have surge suppression so that's not the problem.
Anyone else have problems with the bulbs?
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02-09-2013, 10:21 AM
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Trailer Trash
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MN
Posts: 608
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Not yet but it's winter here in MN.
How do you get the thin round covers off?
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02-09-2013, 10:50 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEdge
I thought LED lights were good for years of use.
We've had one completely fail since buying our unit late last August and now another is still burning but at about half intensity with all LED's lit.
I need to check and see if these are covered by the warranty, not the same as regular light bulbs for sure and not cheap.
We have surge suppression so that's not the problem.
Anyone else have problems with the bulbs?
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I've had some issues with my docking led lights "flickering" and a few led 's burnt out or dead.
Dealer sent me new ones and all is good.
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02-09-2013, 12:03 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Burton, MI.
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The round covers are just pushed in, they are kind of hard to get off because there is a detent all the way around the cover. I had a guy at the dealership in the parts department show me how. I have a nylon pry bar that I use to pop mine off.
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2018 Silverado 3500HD Dually 6.6L Duramax/Allison
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02-09-2013, 01:37 PM
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Site Team - Lou
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
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LEDs are solid state and just like any solid state electronic, they either go bad within a few weeks of use, or last for years and years.
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02-09-2013, 01:49 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Burton, MI.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herk7769
LEDs are solid state and just like any solid state electronic, they either go bad within a few weeks of use, or last for years and years.
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Very true statement, I think the dealership should replace them since it is so new!!!
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2018 Silverado 3500HD Dually 6.6L Duramax/Allison
2018 Columbus 366RL 1492 Edition
Camped 2012 19, 2013 110, 2014 129, 2015 97
2016 93, 2017 79, 2018 84, 2019 59, 2020 0,
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02-09-2013, 03:15 PM
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Trailer Trash
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MN
Posts: 608
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Quote:
Originally Posted by syencer
The round covers are just pushed in, they are kind of hard to get off because there is a detent all the way around the cover. I had a guy at the dealership in the parts department show me how. I have a nylon pry bar that I use to pop mine off.
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Sweet - I have those nylon pry bars too. I used to rebuild laptops and it's what techs use to get the cases and screen display open. The two black ones on the right are the ones I used most.
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02-09-2013, 05:25 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Burton, MI.
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The one I had us for removing trim on the dashboards of cars.
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2018 Silverado 3500HD Dually 6.6L Duramax/Allison
2018 Columbus 366RL 1492 Edition
Camped 2012 19, 2013 110, 2014 129, 2015 97
2016 93, 2017 79, 2018 84, 2019 59, 2020 0,
2021 4 reserved
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02-10-2013, 08:20 AM
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Trailer Trash
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MN
Posts: 608
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Scalpel √
Forceps √
Mini Prybar √
Case of beer √
There honey, I changed the lightbulb in the RV.
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02-10-2013, 03:14 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: West St. Paul, Manitoba
Posts: 886
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We bought a 2013 silverback that came with factory LED lighting and the brochure that describes the lighting says lifetime warranty??
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02-10-2013, 05:02 PM
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Grape Escape
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 774
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LED lighting is nothing but a con as far as i'm concerned. Bought all new xmas lights and they are no better if not worse than incandecent bulbs at 10x the replacement price.
Saw replacement bulbs at RV show and at 18$ apiece I think I'd rather add a second battery at a much lower cost if I were worried about extending battery life IMHO.
Rather spend 99cents to replace bulb rather than ???
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02-10-2013, 06:59 PM
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Columbus 302 rs
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Right now in Winchester Va.
Posts: 112
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Thanks everyone, I will contact our dealer about replacements. I'm baffled as to why they are failing. As Herk said, usually electronics fail quickly or go on for a long time.
I disagree about LED lighting not being a good idea; when you look at the lumens they generate versus power consumed they make lots of sense (if they last their expected lifetime).
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02-11-2013, 07:32 AM
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Trailer Trash
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MN
Posts: 608
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We are all used to little red and green half globe shaped LEDs that were on circuit boards and yes those last a lifetime. Now LEDs are huge, super bright hi intensity, running lights, taillights, flood lights, room lights, etc. Once you crank that many watts and lumens via LED, I don't believe you still get lifetime longevity.
The LED room lights take less electricity to run thus makeing the tree huggers happy. This is a green movement thing so it sells well. The new thing with RVs at the show this year is LED eyebrows on the front caps. Makes your rig look like an expensive European import car. Well even Kia and Hyundai have that look now.
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02-17-2013, 02:11 PM
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Not-so-Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Ventura, California
Posts: 102
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joelek
Not yet but it's winter here in MN.
How do you get the thin round covers off?
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On our 2013 Columbus the LED covers are made of glass and screw off in a counter-clockwise direction. I have attached photos showing the cover on and off.
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02-17-2013, 03:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: CHATSWORTH, GA.
Posts: 1,121
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Led's bulbs
Just replaced every inside light fixture with the correct LED Bulbs, all 24...love the light that emitted from the LED's...also have them in our tow truck, S-10 and Jeep Compass....the 24 led lamps cost me at total for twenty bucks including shipping...now that is a great deal...Here is a lamp in the Compass over then drivers console..In the process of changing all exterior running light bulbs on the Crusader as well...have not counted those yet, but the bulbs that I have purchased are six LED's per bulb...
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02-17-2013, 04:18 PM
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Owner/Operator
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chino Valley, AZ
Posts: 671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LKicklight
Just replaced every inside light fixture with the correct LED Bulbs, all 24...love the light that emitted from the LED's...also have them in our tow truck, S-10 and Jeep Compass....the 24 led lamps cost me at total for twenty bucks including shipping...now that is a great deal...Here is a lamp in the Compass over then drivers console..In the process of changing all exterior running light bulbs on the Crusader as well...have not counted those yet, but the bulbs that I have purchased are six LED's per bulb...
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Link to the source/vendor please?
RodeoGeorge
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02-17-2013, 04:32 PM
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Columbus 302 rs
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Right now in Winchester Va.
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joelek
We are all used to little red and green half globe shaped LEDs that were on circuit boards and yes those last a lifetime. Now LEDs are huge, super bright hi intensity, running lights, taillights, flood lights, room lights, etc. Once you crank that many watts and lumens via LED, I don't believe you still get lifetime longevity.
The LED room lights take less electricity to run thus makeing the tree huggers happy. This is a green movement thing so it sells well. The new thing with RVs at the show this year is LED eyebrows on the front caps. Makes your rig look like an expensive European import car. Well even Kia and Hyundai have that look now.
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I believe they quote 6000 hours on these bulbs, so not a lifetime but sure not 7 months of intermittant use.
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02-17-2013, 07:01 PM
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Trailer Trash
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MN
Posts: 608
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEdge
I believe they quote 6000 hours on these bulbs, so not a lifetime but sure not 7 months of intermittant use.
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Who is "they"?
Love to know the mfg & part # as I see no reason to buy these at retail pricing.
They look like they are made the same way as those strip tape LED lights people are putting on the edge of their awnings. Those host tape carriers I'm betting are fragile and crack with vibration from towing. The actual LED itself is not burning out. Wonder if the tape and connections can be fixed via resoldering with wire wrapping wire. I used to do this 20+ years ago back before everthing was surface mount and solder paste. Example below.
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02-19-2013, 09:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: CHATSWORTH, GA.
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LED's ON Ebay
Quote:
Originally Posted by joelek
Who is "they"?
Love to know the mfg & part # as I see no reason to buy these at retail pricing.
They look like they are made the same way as those strip tape LED lights people are putting on the edge of their awnings. Those host tape carriers I'm betting are fragile and crack with vibration from towing. The actual LED itself is not burning out. Wonder if the tape and connections can be fixed via resoldering with wire wrapping wire. I used to do this 20+ years ago back before everthing was surface mount and solder paste. Example below.
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Item total 10pcs T10 194 921 W5W 24 1210 SMD LED White RV Landscaping Light Lamp Bulb ( 360547839756 )
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Here is the Number of the units I purchase..put it on ebay should pull them right up..any questions, drop me a line..kick
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02-19-2013, 09:35 AM
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Columbus 302 rs
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Right now in Winchester Va.
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LKicklight
Here is the Number of the units I purchase..put it on ebay should pull them right up..any questions, drop me a line..kick
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Thanks for the link, first I will go to the dealer, as I think these should still be under warranty.
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