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01-25-2013, 11:41 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Centennial CO.
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Drain for the potable water on 320RS?
We have ordered our 320RS and anxiously await its arrival in mid March. I was thinking back over the features on the trailer and I don't remember seeing a drain point for the potable water. I did remember seeing the low point drain which I currently have on my existing trailer, but on my trailer those drain the plumbing lines, not the water tank drain. So did I just miss water tank drain, or is the cold side low point drain double as the water tank drain. I am trying to be as prepared as possible so I don't miss any feature or problem when I do the PDI. I plan on downloading the PDI form I saw on the forums. This is not my first new trailer, but you know how it is when the stars are in your eyes and everything looks perfect! I don't want to have to make any trips back to the dealer if I can avoid it.
Speaking of PDI. This dealer is adding on $1,000 for the PDI. I asked him about it and he said its to pay for shop time for the clean up and PDI and for the time they spend with me to do my PDI. Is that what others have been charged? Or am I getting scr#$%^&$.
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Dan & Trish
2006 F-250 Lariat 6.0 Powerstroke
2011 Prime Time 260rld Crusader
Columbus 320RS on order
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01-25-2013, 11:53 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I can't speak to the potable water drain on your new trailer but I didn't pay a thing for PDI. I have also seen where dealers charge a dealer prep fee...We didn't pay that either.
All we paid was 75% of MSRP, sales tax and tags.
Personally I would try and renegotiate.
Good luck
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Dan n Dione
TV: 2012 Ram 3500 Laramie CC LB 4x4 DRW
RV: 2013 Crusader 325RES Touring Edition
Days Camped: 2012 (3) 2013 (22)
Next Trip: Mission Bay, CA 6/6 - 6/9
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01-26-2013, 12:06 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Keller, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DnD
I can't speak to the potable water drain on your new trailer but I didn't pay a thing for PDI. I have also seen where dealers charge a dealer prep fee...We didn't pay that either.
All we paid was 75% of MSRP, sales tax and tags.
Personally I would try and renegotiate.
Good luck
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The potable water drain on our 2012 Silverback 29rk is on the left side (facing forward) of the FW just behind the rear axle.
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01-26-2013, 12:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
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"...shop time for the clean up and PDI and for the time they spend with me to do my PDI."
Tell them to drop the charge and be prepared to walk away. That is pure B#!!
Look over the contract b4 you sign. Dealer prep, destination charges or some other fee is probably already there.
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FOR SALE 2014 BOSS 6.2L F350
2012 Surveyor SV264
NW Oregon
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01-26-2013, 01:35 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Burton, MI.
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On my 295RL the low point drains are right in the center of the axle underneath. The water tang drain is on the left hand side just to the rear of the axle. I hope this helps
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Scott & Vicki
2018 Silverado 3500HD Dually 6.6L Duramax/Allison
2018 Columbus 366RL 1492 Edition
Camped 2012 19, 2013 110, 2014 129, 2015 97
2016 93, 2017 79, 2018 84, 2019 59, 2020 0,
2021 4 reserved
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01-26-2013, 05:00 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Waynesville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan747
We have ordered our 320RS and anxiously await its arrival in mid March. I was thinking back over the features on the trailer and I don't remember seeing a drain point for the potable water. I did remember seeing the low point drain which I currently have on my existing trailer, but on my trailer those drain the plumbing lines, not the water tank drain. So did I just miss water tank drain, or is the cold side low point drain double as the water tank drain. I am trying to be as prepared as possible so I don't miss any feature or problem when I do the PDI. I plan on downloading the PDI form I saw on the forums. This is not my first new trailer, but you know how it is when the stars are in your eyes and everything looks perfect! I don't want to have to make any trips back to the dealer if I can avoid it.
Speaking of PDI. This dealer is adding on $1,000 for the PDI. I asked him about it and he said its to pay for shop time for the clean up and PDI and for the time they spend with me to do my PDI. Is that what others have been charged? Or am I getting scr#$%^&$.
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You said it is NOT your first new trailer,did you pay 1000$ for the PDI & Prep on the others? For 1000$ how many (DAYS) is this PDI going to take? Youroo!!
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01-26-2013, 07:04 AM
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"On the road again"
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Parker County Texas
Posts: 1,152
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On your 320RS you'll be looking just in front of the front axle and there will be an actual drain-valve (unlike the removable caps on the low point drains). I had a fear of losing those caps - so I replaced them with with NPI threaded ball valves like these except white...which I spray-painted black.
http://swimmingpoolsthailand.com/387...-valve-050.jpg
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Georgetown XL 378TS
Jeep Gladiator Willys Tow Vehicle
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01-26-2013, 07:41 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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My daughter and husband bought a new trailer this past summer and part of the deal was a sort of school on the trailer. I guess you could call it a PDI but it was a few hours long and they had to pay for that. It was in the price of the trailer. I had never heard of that before but my daughter's friend went through the same procedure at the same dealer. They were shown how everything worked, etc. Good idea especially for first time buyers. Maybe good idea for old time buyers on new trailers.
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01-26-2013, 09:12 AM
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Site Team - Lou
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
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This is illegal in most jurisdictions. If it was not in the deal when you signed the paperwork, and added after you signed I would bring a State Trooper with me and lead him away in hand cuffs.
FOUL!
If it IS there before you signed I would exercise my 72 hour right and cancel the order. WHAT BS. This is pure dealer profit.
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2008 GMC Sierra 3000HD Allison Duramax
2019 Flagstaff 8529FL
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01-26-2013, 09:32 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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Omg a 1000.00 pdi?
I almost dropped my phone when I read that!
Sorry man but that is downright hi way robbery!
Turbs
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01-26-2013, 10:07 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Waynesville
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I am selling (PDIs) on Kraigs List for 500$. Youroo!!
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01-26-2013, 11:08 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by youroo
I am selling (PDIs) on Kraigs List for 500$. Youroo!!
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Is "kraigs" list a new selling site?
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01-26-2013, 11:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Waynesville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Is "kraigs" list a new selling site?
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No it is (OUTA_SITE). Youroo!!
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01-26-2013, 11:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Virginia
Posts: 9,884
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Wow when we ordered our 2013 Puma Unleashed, no PDI charge, no dealer prep, the shipping charge was in the deal. The dealer through in vent covers, & installed free after the deal was written up, Also when I picked it up I forget to get a new 5th wheel lub plate the dealer told me to pick one up in parts "free" (I know that they are not expensive but he could have charged us). We paid about 66% of MSRP.......
Our Puma 100 gallon fresh water tank has a drian under it in front of the axles. The Hot & Cold lines each have one as well.
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01-26-2013, 11:44 AM
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Trailer Trash
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MN
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Lot of people buy things on price alone as compared to other dealers. Deleting pdi to get the dealer's sell price lower by $1k could simply be a new gimmick. As other said, out the door price and what it does and does not ncludes is the real thing you need to look at.
If a dealer comes up with scary suprises before you even signed on the dotted line........run! Do you really think they will take care of you after the sale? That red flag in the back of your head means something. Pay attention to it!
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01-26-2013, 01:24 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joelek
Lot of people buy things on price alone as compared to other dealers. Deleting pdi to get the dealer's sell price lower by $1k could simply be a new gimmick. As other said, out the door price and what it does and does not ncludes is the real thing you need to look at.
If a dealer comes up with scary suprises before you even signed on the dotted line........run! Do you really think they will take care of you after the sale? That red flag in the back of your head means something. Pay attention to it!
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I agree with Joe 100%. When you select a dealer to work with make sure it's a dealer with a good rep and fair dealings. The deal doesn't end when you take delivery ... it's an ongoing relationship. That nagging voice you are hearing in your head telling you something isn't right ... Please listen to it.
In our case we could have used the dealer who was 10 miles away but went with one that was 100 miles away because of the individual reputations. I am very pleased with our decision and hope you will be able to get to the same place.
Good luck!
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Dan n Dione
TV: 2012 Ram 3500 Laramie CC LB 4x4 DRW
RV: 2013 Crusader 325RES Touring Edition
Days Camped: 2012 (3) 2013 (22)
Next Trip: Mission Bay, CA 6/6 - 6/9
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01-26-2013, 09:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland
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$1000 PDI???? Are you kidding me? You need to call them on this one. First of all, the real PDI is done before you get there. It's a Pre Delivery Inspection. This is where they are supposed to check all of the systems, trim, fittings, etc, to make sure it is put together correctly. The manufacturer pays the dealer to do the PDI, warranty time. The one you are getting should be a courtesy to show you how everything works, and if they did the real PDI correctly, you should not have any issues and it should be a breeze for the dealer. Charging you to do this is an insult. Good luck!
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Dave and Kim
Charlie and Ripken (4 Leggers)
2012 GMC Sierra Denali 2500 6.6L Diesel
2013 Columbus 320RS
Maryland
Times camping in 2013 - 5
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01-26-2013, 10:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland
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Ya know, to add to this, I guess the part that bothers me the most is being charged for nitpicky stuff! Like luggage when flying, or paying for a shuttle to get to a hotel that is charging $300 a night, or paying for a sidedish when you buy a steak for $50. I would rather they just jack the price up enough to cover the price and not make me mad charging for stuff that should be included. At least then you have a choice not to buy it in the first place. I just saying...............
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Dave and Kim
Charlie and Ripken (4 Leggers)
2012 GMC Sierra Denali 2500 6.6L Diesel
2013 Columbus 320RS
Maryland
Times camping in 2013 - 5
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01-27-2013, 11:50 AM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Oregon
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I would just tell them to cancel the PDI charge and that you will do the PDI yourself on their lot. They basically are trying to charge you for making taking plastic out of the trailer, and unwrapping things and making sure everything works. Your going to be doing the exact same thing when you show up before delivery. I would tell them that they can count on all the negative publicity they can handle if they want to charge you for the PDI. A lot of dealers don't want to risk the negative feed back for just $1000
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Byron R
2013 Columbus 295RL
2006 F350 6.0L Crew Cab LB SRW
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01-27-2013, 06:02 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan747
We have ordered our 320RS and anxiously await its arrival in mid March. I was thinking back over the features on the trailer and I don't remember seeing a drain point for the potable water. I did remember seeing the low point drain which I currently have on my existing trailer, but on my trailer those drain the plumbing lines, not the water tank drain. So did I just miss water tank drain, or is the cold side low point drain double as the water tank drain. I am trying to be as prepared as possible so I don't miss any feature or problem when I do the PDI. I plan on downloading the PDI form I saw on the forums. This is not my first new trailer, but you know how it is when the stars are in your eyes and everything looks perfect! I don't want to have to make any trips back to the dealer if I can avoid it.
Speaking of PDI. This dealer is adding on $1,000 for the PDI. I asked him about it and he said its to pay for shop time for the clean up and PDI and for the time they spend with me to do my PDI. Is that what others have been charged? Or am I getting scr#$%^&$.
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Tank drain is between tires on the control panel side
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