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Old 03-27-2014, 09:09 AM   #21
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Dual pane windows are nice until they break a seal and allow condensation to form between the window panes.....then it becomes a pain not a pane. Did you catch the difference in the spelling of Pain vs. pane.

We had the dual pane windows on our last motorhome, but on the Wildcat we have single pane widows. Yes the dual pane do offer some insulating value and does not sweat as single pane windows do. However, in both the motorhome and Wildcat we cut covers to fit the windows out of rolls of two sided foil finish bubble insulation we purchased at Lowes to provide not only insulation value. But, also gives us the ability to black out the interior of the RV for sleeping (keeps out RV park night light) and also reflects the heat of the sun allowing for cooler temps inside.
In the end it is a personal choice to go single or double and cost vs. benefits. I will add that the double pane windows do help to block out and reduce sound. But then so does the foil bubble wrap. Total cost of the foil bubble wrap would be under $100 FWIW.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:24 AM   #22
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Dual pane windows are nice until they break a seal and allow condensation to form between the window panes.....then it becomes a pain not a pane. Did you catch the difference in the spelling of Pain vs. pane.

We had the dual pane windows on our last motorhome, but on the Wildcat we have single pane widows. Yes the dual pane do offer some insulating value and does not sweat as single pane windows do. However, in both the motorhome and Wildcat we cut covers to fit the windows out of rolls of two sided foil finish bubble insulation we purchased at Lowes to provide not only insulation value. But, also gives us the ability to black out the interior of the RV for sleeping (keeps out RV park night light) and also reflects the heat of the sun allowing for cooler temps inside.
In the end it is a personal choice to go single or double and cost vs. benefits. I will add that the double pane windows do help to block out and reduce sound. But then so does the foil bubble wrap. Total cost of the foil bubble wrap would be under $100 FWIW.
I am sure that there are some bad or defective dual pane windows. I would also think that those issues would surface while still under your 1-2 year warranty’s. The window manufacturer may even provide a longer warranty.
An issue that is being touched on but skipped over is the detrimental impact of condensation, inside the fifth wheel. The Forest River manuals don’t say a whole lot about anything, but do hit this issue in pretty good detail. In fact they have the right to l deny warranty issues if they are exacerbated by condensation & mold.
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Actually most windows don't loose there dual pane seal while still under warranty. Manufactures pretty much know the life of the seal and are sure to stop the warranty ahead of this period of time.

Now the seals many times can be fixed or the window replaced. However it does come at a price.

And even with dual pane windows you can and will see some condensation if the RV is used in the cold weather when hot showers are taken, it is just natural for it to do so. Also condensation and mold are not limited by window choice there are many other areas that can allow for these factors to occur.
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However, in both the motorhome and Wildcat we cut covers to fit the windows out of rolls of two sided foil finish bubble insulation we purchased at Lowes to provide not only insulation value. But, also gives us the ability to black out the interior of the RV for sleeping (keeps out RV park night light) and also reflects the heat of the sun allowing for cooler temps inside.


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However, in both the motorhome and Wildcat we cut covers to fit the windows out of rolls of two sided foil finish bubble insulation we purchased at Lowes to provide not only insulation value. But, also gives us the ability to black out the interior of the RV for sleeping (keeps out RV park night light) and also reflects the heat of the sun allowing for cooler temps inside.


Please post pictures.
I'll be happy to do so later this afternoon when the rain has stopped.
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I was able to take a couple of photos from out of the garage door. These are two exterior photos and I'll still try to get a few from the interior if you like once the rail moves out.
Each window is cut independent at to section, such as the rear window is actually three different pieces of foil insulation so that they could be removed independent of one another.

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The rear window looks to have an embossed pattern of a square pattern which is does not. This is a reflection of the other garage doors panel design. However I will say I do like that look....LOL.


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Ours pretty much looks like that in the pictures. Same stuff. Reflective bubble insulation from Lowes. And, for same reasons. Works well for blacking out the inside, blocking heat etc.
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Ours pretty much looks like that in the pictures. Same stuff. Reflective bubble insulation from Lowes. And, for same reasons. Works well for blacking out the inside, blocking heat etc.
I also cut a piece to fit in the skylight above the shower. The foil was cut the same size as the light opening and held in place with Monster Tape around the foil to the plastic molded frame. This blocks out the direct light and heat, yet the plastic around the clear lens does allow for some muted light almost a halo effect.
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We went a different route on the skylight. There are pictures of one I had did on our Forester in my picture album. Pulled the inner lens, painted the inner part of that lens. Painted the inside of the upper dome. Filled with batten insulation and the bubble insulation and resecured. No light, no heat. I don't have pictures of the one on the Silverback, but it's the same way. White paint on both inner and outer dome. Looks nice from the outside too.
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Here's the forester one. I used a matching color on the outer dome on that one. Missing a few pictures showing where the bubble insulation is.
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