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Old 03-06-2013, 12:39 AM   #1
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Front leveling jacks. Are they made too cheap to handle the weight of the newer 5er's

I would just like to pass along the possibility of your front leveling jacks are maybe made too cheap. I recently dropped of my camper for service and after 2 weeks I went up there to check the status off the repairs and this is what I found, my 5er on a jack stand. After looking I feel that maybe they are not using a strong enough steel to make these jacks. It split the metal right up the corner. Do any of you have any input to this???
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:12 AM   #2
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Wow... I'm assuming those are pictures of your 295RL?

What caused the bending? Did the camper fall doing a hitch pull test?
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:27 AM   #3
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Wow... I'm assuming those are pictures of your 295RL?

What caused the bending? Did the camper fall doing a hitch pull test?
I was told that when they were moving it on their lot, they parked it on a spot that wasn't level and when they put it down the trailer rolled a bit and bent the jacks. I was not there so I will never know, but from all I see it is very possible.
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Looks to me that they were damaged when the dealer was moving the camper and didn't have the front of the camper raised high enough and hit the ground with the landing gear while in motion. I think the dealer is telling you a story...

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Actually, it looks like they were too lazy to run the landing gear down before pulling the snap pins to drop the legs.

If you look, the extended legs had to be darn near the full length extended. You should run the jacks down so no more than 2/3 of the extendable leg is out the bottom.

In situations like yours, the weight won't have internal support from one leg inside the other, and especially when the weight is offset to one side, it is easy to split them like that.

And yes, it does look to me like it wasn't lifted enough, and could have been dragged by the operator....
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Actually, it looks like they were too lazy to run the landing gear down before pulling the snap pins to drop the legs.

If you look, the extended legs had to be darn near the full length extended. You should run the jacks down so no more than 2/3 of the extendable leg is out the bottom.

In situations like yours, the weight won't have internal support from one leg inside the other, and especially when the weight is offset to one side, it is easy to split them like that.

And yes, it does look to me like it wasn't lifted enough, and could have been dragged by the operator....
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Your dealer is paying for the replacement landing gear isn't he?
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Agree with Steve, and it definitely looks like it was dragged forward with them down.
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Actually, it looks like they were too lazy to run the landing gear down before pulling the snap pins to drop the legs.

If you look, the extended legs had to be darn near the full length extended. You should run the jacks down so no more than 2/3 of the extendable leg is out the bottom.

In situations like yours, the weight won't have internal support from one leg inside the other, and especially when the weight is offset to one side, it is easy to split them like that.

And yes, it does look to me like it wasn't lifted enough, and could have been dragged by the operator....
Yup, yet another case of braindead dealer's workers.
If they don't offer to replace both jacks, sue them.
Or better yet, get a 4x8 foot sign made up of that picture, and sit in front of their dealership for a day. That should get some action!
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Your dealer is paying for the replacement landing gear isn't he?
They told me they would take care of it. Lets hope so!!
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With their story- don't they chock the wheels? Wouldn't that have prevented any fore/aft movement and subsequent lateral pressure on the landing gear?
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:52 AM   #12
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With their story- don't they chock the wheels? Wouldn't that have prevented any fore/aft movement and subsequent lateral pressure on the landing gear?
I have never seen any wheels chocked at the dealers around here, the would have to buy 150 sets of chocks, I do not think that they would want the overhead, and then you would have the lot people remember to remove them before moving the campers!!!!
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They wouldn't stay long....our dealer even had all the 30A electric pigtails cut off the older style trailers. I've seen them chock some but not all..........
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Not surprising. But I have noticed that newish 5r's seem to have much lighter weight jacks than older. None would hold up to this abuse tho, something had to give. I guarantee that it was dragged with the legs down.
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If they are going good for it that tells me they messed up and either dragged them or dropped the unit. Check inside where they mount and make sure there is no other damage..!
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If they are going good for it that tells me they messed up and either dragged them or dropped the unit. Check inside where they mount and make sure there is no other damage..!
Maybe I should check my insurance company to see if they turned in another claim without telling me, they all ready have 6500.00 of the previous claim money waiting repairs.
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Looks to me that they were damaged when the dealer was moving the camper and didn't have the front of the camper raised high enough and hit the ground with the landing gear while in motion. I think the dealer is telling you a story...

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I would have to agree with Dave, I have seen how they move them around and where not paying any attention. Once the legs are down they just hook-up with a tractor at my dealer and then he just barely picks it up to move them. ......
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I have never seen any wheels chocked at the dealers around here, the would have to buy 150 sets of chocks, I do not think that they would want the overhead, and then you would have the lot people remember to remove them before moving the campers!!!!
True, especially on the theft front... hmm.
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They use a fork truck at my dealer with a fifth wheel hitch on the forks, the just hook it up and lift and move them around, as I have never seen them retract the legs at all!!!
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