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Old 05-22-2014, 08:33 AM   #1
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Thumbs up hitch on back of 5th wheel

Good morning guys,
I'm looking for some advice and or suggestions for buying and installing a 2" receiver on the back of the fifth wheel.

I have two problems since purchasing the 5th wheel my golf cart no longer fits in the back of the truck and my camper doesn't have one of those fancy flip down bike racks some of you guys have. So I'd like to install a hitch to sometimes haul a trailer for the cart and when not be able to put the bike carrier into carry bike

Just looking for some advice I can't find much info it. Will it void warranty? Do they make ones that go past 4x4 bumper? Or is it better to remove stock bumper? Bolt on / weld on? Wiring?

Any thoughts would be appreciated! Thanks!
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Subscribing as I have the same issue, I need to carry my motorcycle with me. I have a sticker directly saying adding anything will void the warranty on the frame.
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Yeah, that looks unhealthy! That's why I haven't installed the bike carrier. I'm looking/asking about a real class rated receiver mounted to the frame or chassis of the fifth wheel
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:52 AM   #6
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Turbs, is that/was that yours? Wondering what was carried on that bumper, not surprised that bumper made so light it probably only 16ga
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:58 AM   #7
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If your fiver is rated for it, check out Idaho tote trailers on the web. I've seen then in cgs but my fiver would fall apart with that load on it.
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:09 AM   #8
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Idaho totes look awesome but, $$$$$$$$$$

I'm not sure where to find info if my 5er is rated or not. No one really has answers for me. The dealer said I'm not sure.

I can't image a couple hundred pounds connected to the i-beam frames the trailer is built on would cause to much problems. The frame is strong steel it support the trailer when changing tires or unlevel camp sites but then again what do I know... that's why I'm asking you guys
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Interesting, our SOB 5th wheel was drilled for a hitch, the hitch was a factory option.

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Turbs, is that/was that yours? Wondering what was carried on that bumper, not surprised that bumper made so light it probably only 16ga
Not mine no.
But I installed a hitch on my flagstaff quite a few years ago and it didn't end well.
BTW it carried 3 bikes.

If you have a "sheet metal" fabricated I beam frame then I wouldn't even go near this in any way shape or form .
With an actual structural I beam I'd consider a flat rack which mine has from the factory as well as an actual structural I beam.
When I asked Sabre about a hitch I was still told absolutely not!



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I put a hitch on my 5er but I also added a complete 2X4 12ga sub frame from my axle hangers all the way back with multiple cross members and a 4' receiver tube.
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I put a hitch on my 5er but I also added a complete 2X4 12ga sub frame from my axle hangers all the way back with multiple cross members and a 4' receiver tube.
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ours came with a hitch installed , and the spare 16inch e rated steel wheel/tire and the mount attached to the bumper from the factory
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Here's my thoughts as it pertains to my situation.

My 5er has solid I beams right to the tail where the bumper is welded on. What I'm planning on doing would put about 400lbs of weight onto the hitch I add, if two 8-10" (I can't remember which) I beam rails can't handle an extra 200lbs of vertical load each, I have to wonder how delicate they are.
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I put a hitch on my 5er but I also added a complete 2X4 12ga sub frame from my axle hangers all the way back with multiple cross members and a 4' receiver tube.
That would also solve my no where to connect my "jt strongarm" problem. I like the idea of 2x4 so you get the strength with out getting to heavy.
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After some research I found that my frame was identical to the triple axle Toy Haulers that have the 2000lb garages. They are 12" non welded "I" beams.

I also am out of warranty at this point as well.

I also use my tongue scale and keep it at 250-275 LBS.

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That would also solve my no where to connect my "jt strongarm" problem. I like the idea of 2x4 so you get the strength with out getting to heavy.

That was exactly the reason I chose that tube!!

I also attached my strongarms to the new sub-frame.
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Turbs, who did you talk to as sabre? Sam? Or call the factory directly? The more I'm thinking about this I'm assuming they are going to say no.

If that's the case maybe I find a different 5er or wait till warranty is up. If I mentioned either of these options I'm pretty sure she is going to kill me in the mean time I do really need to figure out a why to at least haul the bikes the kids little bike can ride in the camper but two adult ones I'm not sure about.

Shane, do you have any pictures from the back? How far the receiver finishes from the camper? I am a sheet metal worker so this something I can probably tackle if I were comfortable after warranty expires. Did you just spice your campers trailer harnass for second trailer lights?
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Shane, do you have any pictures from the back? How far the receiver finishes from the camper? I am a sheet metal worker so this something I can probably tackle if I were comfortable after warranty expires. Did you just spice your campers trailer harnass for second trailer lights?
Sorry I don't have a pic of that right now but will take one for you in just a bit.

I spliced into the trailer lights because 1) most trucks have separate trailer lighting circuits now a days and can handle quite a few lights.
I also spliced into the brake wire for a wireless brake controller for the ATV trailer but have not used it yet because the ATV trailer has towed like a dream.

I do have a hardwired camera on the back of the 5er that interfaces with my radio to watch the ATV trailer and the people following to close behind me!

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Not mine no.
But I installed a hitch on my flagstaff quite a few years ago and it didn't end well.
BTW it carried 3 bikes.

If you have a "sheet metal" fabricated I beam frame then I wouldn't even go near this in any way shape or form .
With an actual structural I beam I'd consider a flat rack which mine has from the factory as well as an actual structural I beam.
When I asked Sabre about a hitch I was still told absolutely not!



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I had almost the identical problem on my 2005 Flagstaff as Turbs did. I now have a 2010 Sandpiper and Forest River/Lippert have limited weight restrictions on it too. Since mines out of warranty, that doesn't bother me. Putting a load back there much over 150lbs is what bothers me. Call the frame manufacturer tech support and ask them about your particular FW frame. I do know that Lippert (Lippert Components, Inc.) sells hitches and racks for their frames. I still shy'd away from them.
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