Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-16-2014, 07:15 PM   #1
Member
 
Tigerbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Loveland, Oh
Posts: 33
Keep losing tail light function - desperate

Please forgive the lengthy post but I feel the need to provide as much detail as possible in the hopes someone can provide a possible solution.


The truck 2014 Ford F350 Diesel
The trailer 2014 Palomino Columbus 320RS
The Problem Continue to blow fuse and lose trailer lights (brakes, turn signals, and flashers)

After the first two times we used the trailer each time we reconnected to head home we lost all of the above noted tail light functions. We did retain the solid lights (running light functionality).


I checked and found a 25 amp cartridge type fuse under the hood had blown, identified as the #100 fuse for turn signals, which is on a separate circuit from the truck. At no time did I ever lose these functions on the truck itself.


If I replaced the fuse and restarted the truck I then had all tail light functions and would head home. Once home, if I turned the truck off then restarted all functions were no longer working and the fuse was once again blown and needed replacement. My Ford dealer has tested the receptacle in the bed of the truck and found no issues. As a favor however they did replace the it, retested, and confirmed the truck has no issues. They drove it for over an hour with their tester connected and again it found no issues. They are confident the truck is working properly.


The trailer has been to the dealer at least three times on this issue and to date they have done the following:


-Replaced the pigtail


-Replaced one of the tail lights (LED) as two of the 6 bulbs were not lighting correctly


-Cut out a section of the wire running to the rear tail light as they felt it did have a nick in the wire possibly causing the short. They said the bedroom slide was pinching that wire.


-They also tested the trucks plug and found no issues with it on more than one occasion.


After all of the above we thought the tail light was the problem and after they replaced it I started the truck and turned it off several times. Each time the fuse did not blow so we all thought, myself included, that we had found the problem so I drove it home. Two hours later my wife and I went to take the trailer to the storage lot and when we checked the lights before heading out, again not working and had to replace the fuse. I restarted and all of the lights worked so we dropped it at the RV dealer instead telling them we still had a problem. I did not turn off the truck and went to check the lights and they did not work. Somewhere during the 35 mile trip to the dealer the fuse blew and the lights failed as a result.



They have contacted the Palomino rep and he was no help. They called my Ford dealer and two others asking them if they had any ideas and they had none. My Ford dealer confirmed they had tested and found no issue with the original receptacle but that they also replaced it as a favor to me and tested that one as well.


The RV dealer then connected our trailer to someone elses truck and drove it around for about an hour and could not get the fuse to blow and never lost lights. I will pick it up tomorrow as we leave Thursday for a long weekend trip and I have my fingers crossed but really dont think the issue has gone away.


Would really appreciate any ideas especially from anyone that owns this truck and trailer. Or from anyone who has had a similar issue and was able to resolve. When both dealers say they have done all that they can quite frankly it makes you feel a bit helpless. I do not know much of anything when it comes to electrical issues and am at their mercy.


I sit here tonight typing this and feel we have one of those nightmare issues where no dealer or factory rep has any idea on what is causing or how to fix. None of the testing equipment can point to a problem. Since the RV dealer was not able to replicate they say they cannot do anything else at this time. I am running out of patience and replacement fuses.



I am probably breaking a rule on the forums but will post in the technical issues area as well since I am desperate for help on this problem.


Look forward to hearing from you, Tigerbug
__________________

__________________
Matt & Wendy
Aussies Skye & Finn
2014 F350 Diesel, SRW, 4x4
2014 Columbus 320RS
Tigerbug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2014, 08:27 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
wbdavey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Oswego, NY
Posts: 287
Tiger - I'm guessing from a long ways away, but here's a thought. Somewhere on your trailer there is a screw or staple that has penetrated a wire. Bouncing down the road the screw shorts to ground and blows the fuse. Stationary at the dealers, no problem. Note that you only lose the brake/signal function so it has to be one of two wires between the pigtail and the back of the trailer (one dedicated wire to each brake light, one common wire to all the tail/marker lights). In less time than they have wasted troubleshooting, the dealer could run 2 new wires from the pigtail to the lights eliminate the problem. Note that the factory wiring is probably in the roof, so they'll have to find a different way to get the wire to the back of the trailer, but if that's beyond their ability, find a different dealer. That's my guess, and I'm sticking with it.
__________________

__________________
2015 Rockwood Ultra Lite 2604 WS. Rear LR, large street side slide with small wardrobe slide in BR.
2014 Ram 1500 Eco Diesel Laramie Quad Cab.
wbdavey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2014, 12:21 AM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Calgary
Posts: 67
I'm with wbdavey

... It's gotta be something internal
__________________
NeilM108 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2014, 10:31 AM   #4
Phat Phrog Stunt Team
 
TURBS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 34,337
Look up in the trailer wiring junction box.
It's located up in behind the pin box and looks like a household electrical box.

I bet there's a loose connection.

TURBS

How can I annoy OC today?
__________________
TURBS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2014, 10:38 AM   #5
Mod free 5er
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Concord, NC
Posts: 24,215
Above suggestions are correct. While doing those checks, get an automatic resetting fuse.
__________________
OldCoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2014, 03:32 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Kamloops,B.C. Canada
Posts: 156
You could try towing another trailer(maybe from the trailer lot)and see if the fuse still blows.If it doesn't blow,then the problem is the trailer.if it still blows,then the problem is probably the truck.The problem could be a poor ground somewhere causing a feed back and overloading the circuit.

09grizzly1
__________________
2012 Palomino Ultralite T245
2004 F250 Supercab 5.4L
09 Grizzly 700 EPS
09grizzly1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2014, 04:17 PM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 37
We have a F-450 here at work and same thing happens but only is the lights are when you connect the trailer plug will it blow the fuse. Turn the lights off and plug the connector and everything is fine
__________________
2014 Salem 30KQBSS
2006 Chevrolet 3500 DRW Duramax EFI by ATP Trucks
Nights Camped 2015-45
Nights Camped 2014-35
bbritt18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2014, 04:18 PM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 77
He said that towing a different trailer had no problems. I'd try using a different truck to tow his rv, and see how that truck makes out... I agree with rerunning the wiring, tho... But, I'm an electrotard...
__________________

2008 Forest River Micro-Lite 18FBR
2000 Ford Explorer Sports Trac
WBrian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2014, 04:49 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigerbug View Post
The RV dealer then connected our trailer to someone elses truck and drove it around for about an hour and could not get the fuse to blow and never lost lights. I will pick it up tomorrow as we leave Thursday for a long weekend trip and I have my fingers crossed but really dont think the issue has gone away.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WBrian View Post
He said that towing a different trailer had no problems. I'd try using a different truck to tow his rv, and see how that truck makes out... I agree with rerunning the wiring, tho... But, I'm an electrotard...
The RV dealer did try the TT with a different truck but that is not proof that the trailer is ok.

The first thing I would try is to just run new wires from the pigtail to the lights. As long as they are secured well I wouldn't worry about a factory look and feel until this proves it fixes the problem. If it does fix the issue I would then look at making the repair permanent and look clean.

I don't know how the ground is run from your truck to the connector. I would verify that it has good electrical connection to the frame and isn't trying to break through a painted surface. Hopefully the dealer did this but you never know.
__________________
2015 F150 Ecoboost
2014 Palomini 142 CK
keith_h is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2014, 05:37 AM   #10
Member
 
Tigerbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Loveland, Oh
Posts: 33
I was back at the RV dealer last night. We checked again using both the in bed plug as well as the bumber plug and both blew fuses. They put the test unit on both plugs (no trailer attached) and still blew fuses on both each time right turn signal was used. Now think it is fully isolated to the truck. Headed to the Ford dealer this morning to see what if anything they can do to fix. We were supposed to leave this morning for Carter Caves Kentucky state park for 4 days. Will see if they can resolve and we can still head out. Will keep you posted.
Tigerbug
__________________

__________________
Matt & Wendy
Aussies Skye & Finn
2014 F350 Diesel, SRW, 4x4
2014 Columbus 320RS
Tigerbug is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
light

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:44 AM.