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Old 03-04-2014, 10:25 PM   #21
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PUMA 32DBKS TT in a Fifth Wheel, would be perfect!

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Old 03-05-2014, 07:13 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by ChooChooMan74 View Post
We like the Tracer 250AIR. But we need an upgrade to our TV first.

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Old 03-05-2014, 01:05 PM   #23
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and the living area has the same problem that many have and that is the big tv is at 90 degrees to the seating areas. even with a pivoting recliner, you'll still have to turn your head some. and anyone sitting on the sofa, will need a chiropratic appt. after a few hours of tv watching.
Couldn't agree more. Our old rig had the TV that rises up out of the console in the back and the seating was at 90 degrees, off to each side. The design looked really cool, but after a few years of use, we came to decide it wasn't the best layout out there. Yes, even when camping, we like to kick back for a nice movie night once in awhile and watching a movie from off to the side can be a real pain in the neck, literally. One of the must haves when searching for our new rig was to have at least some seating directly across from the TV.

I somewhat agree with the comments on walking through the kitchen to get to the rear living. Aesthetically, I think the rear kitchens look very nice. Like a little apartment. But for me, the unacceptable trade-off is giving up the big rear picture window. In most of the campgrounds we've been, the best view is out the rear window. I'd much rather look at the woods, the lake, etc. and not the kitchen sink and refer.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:13 PM   #24
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Sabre Sam, just went and actually checked out Keystone's new Montana High Country 293RK.
for a length of 32'11", it has an amazing amount of features packed into it.
amazing amount of inside storage, especially in the kitchen. even with the 4-door fridge, it still has a huge pantry. many 5th wheels sacrifice pantry storage when the optional 4-door fridge is installed.
having the theater seating right across from the tv was great.
the bathroom has a full sized shower, instead of a corner one and the sink has a lot of counterspace in the bathroom.

the living area was very spacious.

this is the best rear kitchen model we've ever seen and in a package less than 33'.
i'm hoping a FR brand copies it, like Columbus, Wildcat, PrimeTime or Sabre.
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:32 AM   #25
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What is Max length of a fifth wheel? I would like to see a fifth wheel similar to the 36qbok but longer to accommodate a open deck / toy hauler deck that is the width of the rv and 5 long on the back. I would like to be able to haul a golf cart. The rv may need to be 102" wide . A subframe on the front would be nice to be able to get more out of the storage area.
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:47 PM   #26
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Darn it... I knew it was coming up.
Any other midwest shows come up?

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Old 03-09-2014, 10:49 AM   #27
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Can a powered fan be put in 1/2 bath of the 36qbok? Without power taken from the light. Please advise.
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Old 03-09-2014, 07:02 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Fifth Wheel Joy View Post
We went to the rv show in Oshkosh wi and saw the coachman chaparral 360 ibl. The floor plan had the bunk house in the middle of the unit. The kitchen and living room is in the back. A total of 4 slide outs. Very nice but bunks were short.

This floorplan is such a better use of space!!!
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Old 03-21-2014, 08:35 PM   #29
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for us, we would never buy a "stick and tin" trailer, prefer the filon sided ones.
and the living area has the same problem that many have and that is the big tv is at 90 degrees to the seating areas. even with a pivoting recliner, you'll still have to turn your head some. and anyone sitting on the sofa, will need a chiropratic appt. after a few hours of tv watching.
why can't they at least put the tv directly across from the recliners, which is where the owners will be sitting most of the time.

I saw the Rockwood 8329 ultra lite at the Rockland county RV show last month. It's the best floorplan I have seen so far. The living room chairs, dining room, and sofa all have a good view of the TV. I'm picking it up next week.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:37 PM   #30
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Sam, the Open Range 389 BHS, DW absolutely loved the lay out, kitchen slide with the super lounge. Center Island shape and size was amazing. It was the layout we wanted for our family of 5. After the show, I ran into the Sabre QSIK, took the wife up to see one 3 weeks ago and took delivery Friday, we couldn't be happier. Although the QSIK is essentially the same layout, the island configuration in the OR is something to take a look at.

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