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Old 03-05-2014, 09:10 AM   #91
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It seems strange that barbs are still being hurled at the OP.

They are the victim in this, not FR.

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Old 03-05-2014, 09:42 AM   #92
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The OP has had their problems aired on the forum, eventually resolved to their satisfaction by Sabre with details that they're not allowed to discuss on the forum.

Seems to me that the problems is can we just move on or does this thread have to be closed too!



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Old 03-05-2014, 10:08 AM   #93
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OK, this thread has taken some serious turns. The OP is really just a statement thanking the members for their help. Their original problem has been solved, and according to them to their satisfaction There was no questions asked in the OP, so there really is no specific purpose for the comments made by some. A lot of this is just beating a dead horse stuff.

However, some other points have been raised which should be addressed for future reference. We have guidelines here for a reason, and they are usually the culmination of previous experiences with things that have happened on the forums.

I personally usually don't refer to them, until a thread gets sideways like this one (or two) have:

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  • Do not engage in personal attacks.

  • Do not post the same discussion topic more than once or in several areas of the forum.

  • Do not take every opportunity to express your disagreement, incite argument, insult each other, or fan flames. Voice your opinion respectfully and then let it go.

  • Be mindful of yourself and others. This forum is not a democracy; it is privately owned and we make the rules. If rules are violated we retain the right to remove, edit or delete posts and if necessary ban or remove members. Any abuse directed at our staff may/will result in immediate suspension of your account.

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The customer dispute guideline is very important. As history has shown us countless times, these topics get ugly quickly. A lot of people INCORRECTLY assume that Forest River Forums is owned/controlled by the Forest River Company cause of the name similiarity. This is an incorrect assumption, and for the most part, the members here are Forest River product owners. We do have some Forest River employees who are also members, but they don't have any more stroke here than anybody else.

Had we actually rigidly enforced this guideline, we wouldn't be at this point today in this thread. We like to give everyone opportunities to share wisdom and help out their fellow travelers, but it doesn't always work out that way, even with the best intentions.

That being said I am locking this forum, as there is no more benefit to be gained from it. The OP thanked everyone, so let's move on.


Now let's move to the next subject:

About the First Amendment, censorship and your "right to free speech": You have a right to free speech, but not on this forum. It is privately owned and requires members to abide by our guidelines and by the decisions of our moderators. If you cannot accept these guidelines please feel free to contact one of the many good web hosting companies out there to set up an account, create your own discussion board and exercise your First Amendment rights to your heart's content.

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Someone has to interpret these guidelines and how they apply to this forum. Ultimately it's up to our site moderators and administrator to make this decision. If you have any questions about these guidelines, please feel free to contact a moderator or administrator.
Thanks to everyone for keeping the tone appropriate for a group of friends, at least the vast majority of the time. Please keep it up!

I am locking this thread for the sake of forum harmony between friends. As I posted copies of the guidelines above....feel free to PM me or other moderators any comments you may feel need addressed concerning this decision. I'll probably even agree with any bad names you might call me.

Any more topics relating to this same matter will be closed, so please don't try to rehash it. This horse is dead.

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