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Old 08-23-2014, 09:43 PM   #1
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Puma 5th wheel upgrade to standard front landing gear

We purchased a 2014 Puma 295BHSS and so far we are really happy with the purchase. One issue that I have with the fifth wheel is the horribly slow front landing gear. I was curious if anyone has done an upgrade to the front landing gear to make it quicker to take up and down. I was wondering if there where option to convert it to dual motor, put on a different motor that was stronger than the standard one, etc.

I have looked at the option to switch to hydraulic legs but not sure the wife will let me spend that much since we just bought the camper in May.

Curious what others might have done.


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Old 08-24-2014, 10:58 PM   #2
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I just dont run the legs up all the way. I usually leave them down 6"or so from the frame. Just drop the legs and then run it up and down with the motor.
If it makes u feel any better my '15 sabre is the same on jack speed as my '13 puma 295 was.
And in my opinion the electric is much less problematic (and cheaper to fix) than the hydraulic systems, just look on here about all the hose and cavitation noise issues. But electric is a little slower.
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Old 08-24-2014, 11:07 PM   #3
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Relax and enjoy life. Don't be in a hurry. The slow jacks give you time to think about whether you lifted the rear tabs, etc.
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Old 08-25-2014, 06:35 AM   #4
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Try installing Intelli Jacks, with that you can push a button to "disconnect" and the jacks will extend to where you can disconnect from the truck and you don't have to stand there and hold a button, you can get wood or whatever to put under jacks or do some other chore. Once disconnected you can hit level and again leave it to do other stuff. To connect to truck you push connect and it takes it to the "disconnect" position while you do something else. Once connected hit retract and the jacks retract on there own to a preset position as you do other things. About $250 and easy to install. It doesn't speed up jacks but allows you to be productive doing other necessary tasks while it is doing its thing.
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Old 08-25-2014, 08:15 AM   #5
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Thank you all for the replies, I will take a look at the intelli jacks options or just plan on leaving the stock ones on it.


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Old 08-25-2014, 10:33 AM   #6
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I have the same trailer, and yeah they are slow. But, know that everyone else with electric jacks is dealing with the same issue. You should only run them out 6-8 inches in most cases (unless you have a really downhill running site) and then just drop the extensions legs.

My wife's uncle's cousin (LOL, but true) is one of the primary RV slide and jack design engineers. He holds/held most of the patents for slide outs on trailers for a long time. Anyway, we asked him about why they can't put it a 2 speed jack, 1 low torque/high speed for take up and drop down and and 1 high torque/low speed for actual trailer lifting, etc... Apparently three or four manufacturers tried this in the 80s, and invariably people would use the high speed all the time and burn up motors or strip gears constantly. Thus everyone stayed with the single speed, slow/high torque version that is in use today.
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Old 08-25-2014, 10:39 AM   #7
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There's a reason there slow.
The gear reduction is easier on parts.

If your in a hurry camping isn't for you or the fifth wheel.
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Old 08-25-2014, 10:56 AM   #8
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Our front legs, installed by Lippert on Lippert frame were the wrong legs and motors. It was pretty fast but at a cost - the control unit quit but just before that happened, the legs would stop before grounding, they would come down just a little, they would chatter. Then, in the middle of OR they quit. Called Lippert tech assist and while they were walking me through trouble shooting the "magic smoke" escaped from the control unit. I was able to quickly remove the negative terminal from the batts but way to late too prevent the burning of relays, etc. No further damage to system. So - the 5th stayed on the truck for the next 3 1/2 weeks until we arrived in Goshen, then a trip to Lippert to have them tackle the problem. Statement from repair tech was (and I have it written) "Landing legs and motors are wrong sized. Need heavier sized unit. Replacement recommended." With that, they replaced the front legs, gears, motors and the failed controller, all at no sdditional cost. Now it is MUCH slower in action but also much more positive in movement. So, faster is not really better. Slower now means I can get water, power, etc. hooked up and completed just as the auto level finishes. Now I really like the system.
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:04 AM   #9
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The only reason that I would want faster landing gear is because I can think of a thousand other things that I could be doing that was more fun than holding a button down. The Intellijacks option looks good but I was curious if anyone has any experience with them of not always being on a flat campsite. I saw a few other posts on FRF and some still say they do good but not a whole lot out there.


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The only reason that I would want faster landing gear is because I can think of a thousand other things that I could be doing that was more fun than holding a button down. The Intellijacks option looks good but I was curious if anyone has any experience with them of not always being on a flat campsite. I saw a few other posts on FRF and some still say they do good but not a whole lot out there.


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You still have to Un-pin your landing gear and drop them so they contact evenly. As well as having the camper level to begin with.

I was going to purchase this at one time but the price didn't out way the minute it takes me to hold the button.

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