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Old 10-13-2014, 09:05 PM   #1
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Questions on "real world" camper weights

We are torn between the 34tbok and the 36qbok. Basically the 36 is 1000 lbs(11,400) more on the dry weight with the same pin weight(1840 lbs). I have a gmc 2500hd diesel with a max trailer weight of 13,600 and a 9200 GVWR and a 22,000 lbs combined weight. My truck weighs 7300 with full tank and me in it. I know I will be a couple hundred pounds over on the hitch weight with both campers. My question is, are these weights close to what you guys are seeing in the real world. I have heard the factory is on the lighter side on the dry weight and hitch weight.. I know every camper is Loaded different but what weights are you seeing loaded, ready to roll? Thanks.
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Old 10-13-2014, 09:27 PM   #2
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I have a different model sabre, the 34REQS so I don't know how much my numbers will help you but here are the numbers.....

5er yellow sticker dry weight 11104 lbs (with battery, propane etc)
Brochure dry weight 10854 lbs
Brochure tongue weight 1880 lbs
Gvwr 13,888 lbs (per plaque on trailer, brochure lists gvwr of 13704 lbs)

Actual loaded weight 12,380 lbs
Loaded pin weight 2620 lbs (approx 21% of loaded fiver weight)

We have a family of 3 and don't really tend to pack light. Food and clothes were not in the fiver when weighed but everything else we typically take was.
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Old 10-13-2014, 09:29 PM   #3
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My 36 has a yellow sticker of 12,068. I have towed mine a few times with a gm 2500hd with duramax. It handled it fine but the trailer was basically empty, had a few things, but balanced well front to back.
I dont have a scale weight, as the scale by me is only a single platform farm scale, but my truck weighed just a few pounds more than yours.
Im pushing my limits, but we have only pulled it about 150-200 miles since the end of may when our sabre came in. We have it on a permanent/seasonal site, so i just make sure to keep it close to empty when we haul.

Good luck in your decision! We love our 36 qbok!
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Old 10-13-2014, 09:43 PM   #4
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Looking at your numbers you have 1900 lbs of available payload before you put the rest of your family and their stuff in your truck. By the time you do that, the dry pin weight will be over your payload. The loaded pin weight will be way over your payload and quite probably over your max RAWR. Did you get your axle weights when you weighed yourself? While I do not advocate going over payload (I had a bad experience doing that with a tt previously), those that tend to go over payload typically try to stay within their axle weight ratings. I really think these are both going to be too much trailer for you. The only good thing you have going here is the truck is a diesel (gotta love a duramax ) on average people tend to add at least 1000-1500 lbs sometimes as much as 2000 lbs into their fiver. Figure ideal pin weight to be 20-25% of loaded weight. Honestly the tbok probably will have a loaded pin weight near mine and the qbok even heavier. Also don't forget to add in approx 150 lbs for the weight of the fiver hitch if it isn't already in your truck.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:13 PM   #5
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So, I weighed the show today.

I didn't tell there, but my advertised pin weight is 2,302, I measured 2,580, a 278lb increase in ready to go mode except for clothing and toiletries.

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Old 10-14-2014, 07:00 AM   #6
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I have hankook E rated tires. At 72 psi I believe the tires are rates for 3120 lbs a piece. Which would put me at 6240, my rear axle unloaded with hitch in it was 3000lbs. Is this telling me I "could" have 3240 lbs left over. I am lea in towards the 34tbok. Bag my truck and roll. Thoughts.
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I've weighed by 36QB 3 or 4 times now. Here is a break-down for it:
Learn To RV: Dry Weights & Truth in Advertising

I did a more recent weighing before a 2 month trip and we were rolling even heavier but I didn't do an individual truck weight to get an accurate pin weight. But, based on prior weighings- I have a pretty good feel for it.
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I've got a 34tbok, pull with a gas f250 bagged no problem.
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Old 10-16-2014, 12:59 PM   #9
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I pull a 35 QSIK with a 2006 2500HD CrewCab 4x4 Duramax. I added air bags to the rear suspension to help with the big bumps. It pulls beautifully. I'm getting 13.8 mpg on 55 mph roads and 12.2 mpg on 65 mph roads. I haven't weighed anything yet.
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