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Old 03-30-2016, 01:45 PM   #1
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Rockwood, Puma or Sabre? 5th wheel?

Rockwood, Puma or Sabre? 5th wheel?
Looking to move up to a small 5th wheel. Will be towing with a 1/2 ton so I need to keep the weight down. ( I know it would be smart to get a 3/4 ton but that is not possible.)
The Puma is much cheaper. Are there major differences in these Forrest River brands?
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Old 03-30-2016, 01:57 PM   #2
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Rockwood, Puma or Sabre? 5th wheel?

There isn't any Sabre I'd pull with a half ton!

The lightest pin weight is only barely below 2k unloaded and max gross of 14k

Sabre light is a different story.

1320 empty pin 12k gross 25rl

Better yet what's your truck specs
Ccc
Max tow
P tires or lt?


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Can't really offer any advice without knowing truck specs

Normally you'll run out off ccc of the truck long before you reach max tow weight


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Old 03-30-2016, 02:26 PM   #4
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Rockwood, Puma or Sabre? 5th wheel?
The Puma is much cheaper. Are there major differences in these Forrest River brands?
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Yes, Puma is stick and tin construction, vs the filon and aluminum of the other two.
That's why it's cheaper.
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Yes, Puma is stick and tin construction, vs the filon and aluminum of the other two.
That's why it's cheaper.

Yup. Aluminum studs in the sabre.
I found that out, when trying to mount a television in the bunk, with a wood screw....


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Yup. Aluminum studs in the sabre.
I found that out, when trying to mount a television in the bunk, with a wood screw....


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Lol Sabres big selling point all aluminum Sabre cage!
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I'm a 1/2 ton guy who's (1/2 ton) truck can only be matched or exceeded by the Ford EB... Both trucks must have the max towing/HD coolers...ect packages.

Now with that said, with your 5.3l i think you are going to find it extremely hard to find anything that will keep you within your ratings. With our Crusader fully loaded with gear and everything for camping and a bunch of water in the tank...scaled we were much closer to our limits than I ever calculated.

Meaning that once my lease is up...there will be an HD in my future...but for now we know our weight and just have to be careful.

If you truly want a 5'er you are going to need a different truck...and might as well just go bigger...if you are not in the market for a different truck than you are going to have to stay with a TT or read on further...

Yes there are several people that pull 5'ers with your style truck...and I would say of course it can do it, but it is all about the numbers and being safe...good luck to you!
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:27 PM   #8
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Our first 5er was a Rockwood 8244. Our first big trip was all the way to Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia. We pulled it with our Chevy Z71 1/2 ton with the 5.3 engine. On the way back to Minnesota we encountered a 10 mph headwind almost all the way home and that poor little engine worked overtime just to keep up to the big trucks doing 55 mph. Even small ascents created a danger because we just couldn't keep our speed up. The one thing it did was show the DW that we needed more truck. Long live the Diesel. We had a different truck before the end of that year. What a difference that made. Much safer.
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It would also help if the OP posted the truck's specs.
ESPECIALLY the yellow door sticker's payload capacity, since he wants a 5th wheel.
5th wheel pin weights are what eliminates 90% of 1/2 trucks.
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Had a puma 295 bhss 5er and currently a sabre 36qbok 5er.
Both are too big for a half ton, but they do have smaller models.
Pumas are entry level, but are extremely well built so they are also a little heavier. I had less issues with my puma than i have my sabre, but i also have twice the slides, twice the bathrooms, many more amenities.....etc.
I am pleased with both!
I have no experience with rockwood, but they seem to be pretty popular and are priced just a little more than stick & tin, but close to entry level for filon sided (in my opinion from what I'd seen price wise).

I would buy another puma for sure, but would have to research FR sabres more before giving them a nod. My sabre is a Palomino Sabre and the sabre line was just moved to a forest river line a few months ago. So i have no real world knowledge of how the new ones are now.
Good luck!
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