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Old 03-09-2016, 09:49 AM   #11
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This is where I got my info. http://www.forestriverinc.com/#&panel1-2
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:11 AM   #12
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Am I missing something here? I'm under the impression that Forest River is the parent company of both Coachman and Palamino plus many others. So I would take that to mean that they are all Forest River.
They are all under the Forest River Umbrella. Kind of like how GM is the parent company of Buick, Chevy, Cadillac, etc...

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I understand that Sabre is no longer manufactured by Palomino but is now a coachman product
It was previously labeled as a Palomino Sabre but now they are Forest River Sabre. Coachman really has nothing to do with it. They are a separate line under the FR brand.
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We have a 2015 Sabre 33CKTS under the Palomino flag. Saw the new version of this under the FR name at an RV show this past weekend in Springfield, MO. The newer model looks "cheap" to me but I'm sure it is a partial opinion. As for ours, love the trailer. Couple of minor things like any trailer but they have been worked out. As for the dealer--I won't go back to them. Great for the sale but that's where it ends. They don't give a flying flip about warranty work.
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I think I got some wrong Info. I see nothing about Sabre in the Coachman literature. I did see Sabre under both Palomino and Forest River RV. Confusing.
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I think I got some wrong Info. I see nothing about Sabre in the Coachman literature. I did see Sabre under both Palomino and Forest River RV. Confusing.
Looks like you've got it figured out. Don't know who would've told you that Sabre was under Coachman but they were definitely wrong.
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Old 03-09-2016, 02:58 PM   #16
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I don't know much on others, but our 36qbok, now branded the 360qb, looks like much is the same. Only thing i really noticed different was the pin weight was higher now (on brochure specs).
I actually watched a walk-thru video of a 360qb and noticed quite a few differences.

They took the microwave out of the outdoor kitchen as well as the three pullout drawers on the bottom. I don't think there's as much cabinet storage there anymore either.

They moved the doors for the big pantry in the kitchen around the corner so they are facing the table. They also took out the "pull-out" cabinet between the stove and the fridge and made it just regular cabinets.

It looks like there are fewer cabinets around the main TV area. They took out the cabinets above the couch.

They have regular blinds over the windows rather than the day/night shades.

The dinette is a four-seater with a stand-alone table rather than a u-shaped.

The doors into the bedrooms are all wood. Ours have glass with blinds over them.

The dresser in the master bedroom is taller and off to the right of the window instead of underneath it. The closet is just 2 big sliding doors instead of having a separate cabinet area where the washer/dryer hookups are.

I don't know how much of these are options that can be changed but if I had to choose, I'd certainly say the QBOK > 360qb. I can see why dealers (mine included) quit carrying the line.
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Am I missing something here? I'm under the impression that Forest River is the parent company of both Coachman and Palamino plus many others. So I would take that to mean that they are all Forest River.
As was said, FR is kind of like GM, numerous independent divisions.
Especially for the brands FR acquired during economic downturns.

These are Palomino (bought from Vanguard industries), PrimeTime, Coachmen, Dynamax and Shasta.
These pretty much still operate as before the acquisition, just got saved from shutting down, by FR's financial bailout.
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I'm glad I have the Palomino Sabre. I don't like the new 33ck.
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