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08-01-2018, 09:41 PM
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water lines
could someone with forest river please explain why my Columbus 2017 386fk has cheap garden hose for cold water lines...
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08-01-2018, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by daddytrucker68
could someone with forest river please explain why my Columbus 2017 386fk has cheap garden hose for cold water lines...
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Did you buy it new? That doesn't sound right. It's usually Pex.
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08-01-2018, 09:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daddytrucker68
could someone with forest river please explain why my Columbus 2017 386fk has cheap garden hose for cold water lines...
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If you want a Forest River employee to explain this, you'll have to contact Forest River - namely the Columbus line manufacturer. The DISCLAIMER at the bottom of most pages of the Forest River Forum says this: " ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions."
Forest River employees are not known to monitor this forum site.
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08-01-2018, 09:57 PM
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yes brand new..
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08-01-2018, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by daddytrucker68
yes brand new..
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Then you really do need to contact Forest River for an answer. Our water lines are all pex ( at least the ones we can see)
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08-01-2018, 10:11 PM
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Many of them use a combination of pex and a white braided hose on the cold lines...not sure why they don't just use pex throughout. I can tell you from experience that the white braided stuff has an inner and outer jacket, and sometimes they separate creating a bulge, which is then subject to bursting. If ever you are doing a plumbing repair or modification such as removal of the water filter, and the line you are working on is the white braided stuff...pull it out and replace it with pex.
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08-02-2018, 07:21 AM
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My 2018 is mixed like yours. Seems they do it for convenience for hose routing. Here is a pic of the backside of my wetbay panel. 
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08-02-2018, 08:13 AM
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08-02-2018, 08:33 AM
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I have white braided line sections in my Wildcat wet bay also. It is generally lines connected to the fresh water tank/campground water input. Once water gets to internal manifolds, it goes into pex (red and blue in my case).
If you really want an answer to your question, please read and heed posts # 3 and # 5.
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08-02-2018, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by daddytrucker68
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That seems like the same white braided line we've seen in our trailer. It's not a garden hose, it's more like this kind of stuff:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Eastman-...8973/205557830
It seems to be used where ever they need more flexibility than straight PEX.
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08-02-2018, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by daddytrucker68
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That is Ultra-Flexible Reinforced PVC tubing. It is perfectly suitable for potable water installations.
Bruce
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08-02-2018, 08:58 AM
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That's fancy, just cut a hole in the wall and shove the hose through. What they cut that with? A ball peen hammer?
Been thinking of a new camper, but seeing all shortcuts the manufacturer is taking to keep up with demand. I may just keep mine.
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08-02-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ida Ratherbe Camping
That's fancy, just cut a hole in the wall and shove the hose through. What they cut that with? A ball peen hammer?
Been thinking of a new camper, but seeing all shortcuts the manufacturer is taking to keep up with demand. I may just keep mine.
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That will always happen when you use a drill bit when drilling a hole without backup board on the exit side of the starting point. That is called tear out. When I do woodworking I will always use a back up board to prevent the tear out of the veneer wood that is placed over a lower grade wood board/plywood.
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08-02-2018, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomad297
That is Ultra-Flexible Reinforced PVC tubing. It is perfectly suitable for potable water installations.
Bruce
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sorry but its cheap garden house, I cut it easily with my pocket knife and my garden hose at home is thicker and more durable than that stuff..
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08-02-2018, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim34RL
That will always happen when you use a drill bit when drilling a hole without backup board on the exit side of the starting point. That is called tear out. When I do woodworking I will always use a back up board to prevent the tear out of the veneer wood that is placed over a lower grade wood board/plywood.
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And there's a number of various flanges that *could* be used to hide that. But... It would probably add another 10 cents to the cost of your camper. 
That braided hose should be pressure rated to at least the same as PEX, but I don't think I've seen any designation on the exterior of them like PEX has. It won't have the impact resistance of PEX and wouldn't expect it to be installed anywhere where it could be damaged, but obviously they do. Whatever is fastest is what matters.
NFPA 1192 is the standard that covers plumbing for RVs but has nothing on specs for the braided hose or PEX that I could see.
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08-02-2018, 07:52 PM
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That's is NOT garden hose. It is a reinforced water line and used in many RV applications
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08-02-2018, 07:57 PM
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Its normal.
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08-02-2018, 08:07 PM
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I noticed that today in my camper. My guess is that PEX is a little harder to bend and would most likely put stress on the plastic toilet water valve resulting in a broken valve. Yeah it looks cheap but it is functional and easy to replace. As for the hole in the wall, you should see the hole in my floor where all the water lines come together outside the bathroom. 
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08-02-2018, 08:29 PM
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Looks like a fresh/drinking water hose to me. I would contact FR. also.
looks like they ran out of the proper line and said hey let's use this the
buyer will never know.
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08-02-2018, 08:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gdub2
Looks like a fresh/drinking water hose to me. I would contact FR. also.
looks like they ran out of the proper line and said hey let's use this the
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That's doubtful since many/most/almost all units have this kind of tubing/hose for fresh water. Are you sure you don't have any of this anywhere? I do.
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