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Old 08-05-2014, 08:35 PM   #1
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Which Surge Protector?

I'm wanting to add a surge protector to my 50 amp 32RCTS Sabre and am not sure which way to go. I keep it plugged in at my house but only have 30 amp service there. And there are a lot of times I will only use 30 amp service the RV parks I visit. This is so I don't have to wrestle with my 30 ft. 50 amp cord and one AC is usually enough. I can then use my 10 ft. 30 amp cord. I also dry camp with 2 honda 2000is. Don't know if a protector is needed when using those. Should I go with:

1. PI EMSHW50C hardwired. Don't know if it will fit behind the power panel.
Will it still protect when plugging into only 30 amps?

2. PI EMSPT50C portable. This would require a 30 to 50 amp pigtail before the protector and a 50 to 30 amp pigtail after the protector. I'm already using a 30 to 50 amp pigtail before the power enters the trailer.

3. PI PT30C portable. This would eliminate the extra pigtails and could be used in most situations but would leave me unprotected if ever I use the 50 amp cord.
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:40 PM   #2
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go with #1. I have it in my 5th. Yes still works on 30 amp. Mine stays plugged into 30 amp outlet at home
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:04 PM   #3
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PI is the best as for as I am concerned . Hard wire is the way to go.
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:34 PM   #4
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I hard wired a Surge Guard brand - 50 amp - Model # 34560 into my 35 QSIK and it works fine all the way down to a 15 amp household outlet. It kicks out, as it should, if I try to turn the a/c on. (My quick test)
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Old 08-05-2014, 10:48 PM   #5
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Ive got your #1 in my sabre 36qbok. I just put it in the basment behind the access panel. Its a little hard working with those big wires in such a tight box, but its doable.
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Old 08-05-2014, 11:09 PM   #6
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I have the 50 Amp SurgeGuard and like it a lot. The difference is I believe, the SurgeGuard has limited warranty and the PI has lifetime.
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Old 08-06-2014, 10:33 AM   #7
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I would get the hardwire PI for the following reasons:

1) PI also has a switch to turn it off (on the optional remote display) when used with generators. Some generators will give a ground fault error due to an open float ground.

2) PI has an error code for when the surge component has been exhausted and needs replacing.

3) PI inside electronics are modular and built for the end user to service.

4) lifetime warranty


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Old 08-06-2014, 12:42 PM   #8
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So are you saying it can't be used when running the generators and I'll have to bypass it using the remote display to get normal power into the trailer? Is there a way to bond the neutral and ground at one of the generators? Maybe by using a plug in one of the outlets with an internal jumper that would have the neutral and ground connected.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:09 PM   #9
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I have the Progressive 30 with the remote hard wired in and I use it with shore or generator power with no issues. One of the other benefits of the remote panel is that is shows what you are using all the time. So if you are running the generator with the AC, fridge and the TV on you will see that you will need to turn one of them off before you run the microwave. Easy to do, turn off what you need, then back on when done.


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Old 08-06-2014, 02:40 PM   #10
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You need to make a cheater plug for use with inverter generators, no big deal. I have one I made for my Honda and it works great. Standard construction generators probably don't need the cheater
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