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11-21-2013, 12:54 PM
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This airport has a little challenge - the drag strip next to the runway has had a couple of landings from operators breaking out at minimums. The grand stand at the end of the runway is the giveaway you may have made a oops.
http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1312/06383R6.PDF
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11-21-2013, 01:04 PM
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they had to have a reason to land their because something that size is always IFR approach and the approach plate states all the info they need to navigate and fly the approach including miss procedures. I will have to look at my charts at work tonight for that airport. dont think they are that stupid to not talk about the runway lengths and miss procedures. but all 3 crew members might of been knuckle heads
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You say "... all 3 crew members ..."and I'm assuming you're referring to the PIC, First Officer and Flight Engineer here.
The 747 Dream Lifter is a -400 series airframe and the FE station was deleted on that airframe.
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11-21-2013, 01:13 PM
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I wonder if during their approach, a little voice was heard saying "recalculating!"
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11-21-2013, 01:14 PM
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You would have to bring that up  - I hated that form.
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lol I carry many in my flight bag and in my tool box 
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11-21-2013, 01:18 PM
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I think the faa should give them a strong lashing for not clearly having tail numbers.... That is what I think.
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11-21-2013, 01:20 PM
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I think the faa should give them a strong lashing for not clearly having tail numbers.... That is what I think.
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Cough, #trolling, cough.
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11-21-2013, 01:23 PM
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lol I carry many in my flight bag and in my tool box |
Yeah the program is available for use by maintenance personnel also.
I met some of the programs personnel in California several times when I was our FAA offices ASAP maintenance representative and they are a very professional group of people.
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11-21-2013, 01:31 PM
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E - you wasted your time here. This guy is just fascinated with Tail Numbers and I stated some time ago that I'm just going to ignore any further comments about them from him. 
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11-21-2013, 01:33 PM
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11-21-2013, 03:06 PM
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I wonder if during their approach, a little voice was heard saying "recalculating!"
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JATO?
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11-21-2013, 03:11 PM
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JATO?
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Jet Assisted Take Off? Doubt it.
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11-21-2013, 03:26 PM
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Jet Assisted Take Off? Doubt it.
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I did not think so.
Any way I see they got it off Jabara airport and over to McConnell with another flight crew....
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11-21-2013, 03:36 PM
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I did not think so.
Any way I see they got it off Jabara airport and over to McConnell with another flight crew....
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Just to clear one point up here - that aircraft isn't certified for JATO operations - in fact the only civil aircraft I recall as having any assisted take off certified equipment is the old Swearingen Metro and I'm not too sure on that either.
Probably removed all cargo and un-necessary equipment and had just minimum fuel.
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11-21-2013, 03:42 PM
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According to Victor White, director of Wichita airports, there were other concerns before the takeoff. The major concern was that Jabara's runway could be damaged by such a heavy plane, which is estimated at about 600,000 pounds
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UPDATE: Boeing Dreamlifter successful in Jabara takeoff
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11-21-2013, 03:45 PM
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My dad worked for Vertol in Canada. They had a JATO demo in Montreal one time at an airshow. They needed to repave the landing zone afterwards.
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11-21-2013, 03:59 PM
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Tail numbers again eh?...  I was at a bar over the w\e and saw a hottie waitress that had 'tail letters' on her short-shorts that read 'PINK'..Mmnnn
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11-21-2013, 04:05 PM
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My dad worked for Vertol in Canada. They had a JATO demo in Montreal one time at an airshow. They needed to repave the landing zone afterwards.
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Goggle B47 bomber JATO and see some video. The last version of JATO on the B47 consisted of 3 rows of 11 rockets each mounted on a rack that would be jettisoned after the rockets were expended after takeoff.
All B47's on Alert Status were equipped with JATO as they were loaded with a nuclear weapon and max fuel load.
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11-21-2013, 04:09 PM
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Tail numbers again eh?... I was at a bar over the w\e and saw a hottie waitress that had 'tail letters' on her short-shorts that read 'PINK'..Mmnnn |
I think this fits here - 
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11-21-2013, 04:16 PM
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Dumb question: Why can't they just unload all the cargo and take off?
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11-21-2013, 04:17 PM
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Goggle B47 bomber JATO and see some video. The last version of JATO on the B47 consisted of 3 rows of 11 rockets each mounted on a rack that would be jettisoned after the rockets were expended after takeoff.
All B47's on Alert Status were equipped with JATO as they were loaded with a nuclear weapon and max fuel load.
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Can't the C130 use JATO?
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