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Old 11-21-2013, 11:22 AM   #11
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I wonder if they will get reprimanded and how severely ... This is going to cost Boeing a lot of money ....

Maybe a good opportunity and a good reason to extend the runway Let Boeing pay for it
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:31 AM   #12
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From a pilot's perspective, this is easier to do than you think; ESPECIALLY since today's pilots are trained to "trust the computer" rather than their Mark One Eyeball.

In a two pilot aircraft, one pilot is supposed to enter the Airport Identifier is the Flight Director and the other is supposed to verify it. It just takes one mistake, not caught by the other pilot to result in this kind of mishap.

Some flight management software is so smart it can actually set up the preferred approach for the selected airport without any further pilot action.

It is further Murphied by the Navaid identifier for the final approach fix (FAF) at the "big" airport to be physically located at the "minor" airport. Inserting the FAF as the destination can result in the Distance Measuring Equipment (DME) readout being correct for the wrong airport of intended landing.

Many close airports have runways have similarly aligned runways due to the prevailing winds.

This happens way more than you might think. I remember during a low visibility night, an F-4 that landed at Ogden Muni (located right on final north of Hill AFB). Cleared to land at Hill (but not in sight), the pilot spotted Ogden's runway and "went for it". After touchdown, he popped his braking chute. The pilot or Nav saw all the general aviation aircraft on the lit ramp; did an "Oh S..."; punched off his drag chute; plugged in the afterburner and aborted the landing. On climb out he saw Hill, swooped around and landed safely at the base. Since Hill's tower was unaware of the "transgression," The pilot neglected to mention it.

Later at the Officer's club, the base commander and security tracked him down and placed his drag chute on the shocked pilot's table. Seems the Airport Manager picked up the drag chute laying in the grass by the side of his runway and drove it over to the base.
Sure, and no one noticed the chute pod cover open and asked, "hey, where's your chute"?.
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:38 AM   #13
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They are reporting they might be able to.
This is a 747 Dreamlifter. It is HUGE.
I only fly radio control airplanes and always quiver at the 'might make it scenario', dropped a F14 because I run out of runway and tried it anyway, didn't work just short on speed.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:08 PM   #14
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This isn't the first time an airplane (large or small ) that has landed at the wrong airport.

Speaking of this, I was stationed at Plattsburgh AFB, a Stragetic Air Command (SAC) from 1963 to 1964. During that time, a couple of Canadian pilots landed at the base unintentionally. Plattsburgh AFB is located in upstate NY very close to the U.S. Canadian border.

SAC is very jealous of its runways,especially during the Cold War when nuclear weapons were loaded on B47 and B52 bombers just waiting for the word to takeoff.

These Canadian pilots were dealt with severely after landing. I witnessed one occurrence where the pilot was surrendered by Air Force security,taken to the ramp,handcuffed and taken off someplace.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:16 PM   #15
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Geeesh. In this day and age with all the electronic gadgetry aboard today's planes from Cessna 152's to Boeing's one would think the pilot in charge would at least land at the right airport. Hmmm...wonder if the tower made a phone call to the FAA to have the pilot do some explaining....
I would definitely bet that the flight crew will be getting a Letter Of Investigation from the FAA office that covers that airport.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:20 PM   #16
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Sure, and no one noticed the chute pod cover open and asked, "hey, where's your chute"?.
Good point and I would venture to say this pilot acted recklessly by not telling anyone that he left his chute at the airport. He probably had no idea where the chute finally settled down at - it could have landed on the runway,presenting a danger to pilots landing on that runway.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:29 PM   #17
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But in his defense, most F4 pilots were pretty young and of the mind "Nobody saw it, can't prove a thing". Until later...
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:37 PM   #18
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But in his defense, most F4 pilots were pretty young and of the mind "Nobody saw it, can't prove a thing". Until later...
Never been a F4 pilot,but that is a dangerous attitude for any pilot,military or civilian, to take IMO.

You leave a chute laying on a runway or close to it, another pilot unknowing it's there if at night time or even day time, lands and sucks the chute up if a jet or caught in a propeller and loses control - that's pretty stupid and reckless.
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I would definitely bet that the flight crew will be getting a Letter Of Investigation from the FAA office that covers that airport.
unless they filled out NASA ARC 277 before they left the flight deck . or on touchdown. hope they sent it out with their smart phone
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:53 PM   #20
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unless they filled out NASA ARC 277 before they left the flight deck . or on touchdown. hope they sent it out with their smart phone
You would have to bring that up - I hated that form.

Most flight crews carry a blank form in their flight bag - just in case
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