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Old 11-22-2013, 03:30 PM   #81
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Herk - I'm not that familiar with the C-130 and all their models and variants (too many for me), but the 3 aircraft named here, 74-1683, 74-1686 and 74-2065 seem to be older aircraft than the one that is in your User ID (7769). I don't know if 7769 is in contract number 1974, thus 74-7769.

Am I correct here?

P.S. Please note that the term "Tail Numbers" is only used in this P.S.and not in the main message due to one FRF members fascination with the term.
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Old 11-22-2013, 03:32 PM   #82
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Back in my younger years, when I camped at race tracks, I was so hammered and walked into the wrong camper. I was wondering why my bed was occupied. Is that similar to landing at the wrong airport? Maybe the pilots were having a few?
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Could you read the tail number of said aircraft ?
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Old 11-22-2013, 03:57 PM   #83
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Herk - I'm not that familiar with the C-130 and all their models and variants (too many for me), but the 3 aircraft named here, 74-1683, 74-1686 and 74-2065 seem to be older aircraft than the one that is in your User ID (7769). I don't know if 7769 is in contract number 1974, thus 74-7769.

Am I correct here?

P.S. Please note that the term "Tail Numbers" is only used in this P.S.and not in the main message due to one FRF members fascination with the term.

The last 4 is the serial number. The ENTIRE tail number includes the manufacture year. 74-XXXX means the aircraft was made in 1974.

My last flight was in 63-7769 an E model made in 1963.

While I have flight time in A models, E Models, and several H model variants, the majority of my flight time is in E Models. My very first flight was in an E Model in 1974 and 31 years later, my last flight was in an E Model.
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Old 11-22-2013, 04:05 PM   #84
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The last 4 is the serial number. The ENTIRE tail number includes the manufacture year. 74-XXXX means the aircraft was made in 1974.

My last flight was in 63-7769 an E model made in 1963.

While I have flight time in A models, E Models, and several H model variants, the majority of my flight time is in E Models. My very first flight was in an E Model in 1974 and 31 years later, my last flight was in an E Model.
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BTW - not to argue here, but I believe the first digits in an U.S.military aircraft serial number refers to the FY that the contract for that aircraft was signed and not the year it was built.
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BTW - not to argue here, but I believe the first digits in an U.S.military aircraft serial number refers to the FY that the contract for that aircraft was signed and not the year it was built.

I meant to say here "the first two digits ..."
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Would six miles in this case be considered a near miss.
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Would six miles in this case be considered a near miss.
There is an official definition of a "near miss" in the FAA's Air Traffic Controllers handbook, but I don't know what it is.

I do know that all "near misses" are reported to the various FAA offices each morning.
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could almost label this thread a near miss, because it almost talks about camping . please dont anybody mention healthcare, cause then it would run forever
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BTW - not to argue here, but I believe the first digits in an U.S.military aircraft serial number refers to the FY that the contract for that aircraft was signed and not the year it was built.
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I needed to refresh my memory on how this worked.

I discovered the first two digits of the USAF Tail number is actually the Fiscal Year the particular aircraft was paid for (funded) and not when it was delivered (made) or the contract run was signed.

A multi-year contract can be signed, but each year's budget only funds the production authorized for that year. Thus a contract run can span more than on year. For example the 1961 Lockheed C-130E contract for 496 E Models spans tail numbers from 62-XXXX through 63-XXXX.

"Starting on July 1, 1921 (the beginning of FY 1922) a new serial number system was adopted based on procurement within each Fiscal Year. Each serial number now consisted of a base number corresponding to the last two digits of the FY in which money was allocated to manufacture the aircraft, and a sequence number indicating the sequential order in which the particular aircraft was ordered within that particular FY. For example, airplane 22-1 was the first aircraft ordered in FY 1922, 23-1 was the first example ordered in FY 1923, etc. This system is still in use today.

It is important to recognize that the serial number reflects the Fiscal Year in which the order for the aircraft is placed, NOT the year in which it is delivered. Nowadays, the difference between the time the order is placed and the time the aircraft is actually delivered can be as much as several years."
From: USASC-USAAS-USAAC-USAAF-USAF Aircraft Serial Numbers--1908 to Present

This only applies to Air Force Aircraft. Navy uses "Bureau Numbers" for example.

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could almost label this thread a near miss, because it almost talks about camping . please dont anybody mention healthcare, cause then it would run forever
Well it is in the "Off Topic" area and (as far as I know) avoids the "crash landings" of guns, politics, and religion.
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