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Old 11-21-2013, 09:06 AM   #1
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A Boeing 747 Dreamlifter cargo plane may be stuck at a minor airport in Kansas for some time after it apparently landed there by mistake.

The giant cargo jet was heading for McConnell air force base in Wichita but instead touched down at nearby Colonel James Jabara airport.

Local media report that the jet may be too large to take off from Jabara's 1,860m (6,100ft) runway.

Boeing is sending a tug to the airport to turn the plane around, reports say.

The firm said in a statement it would release further details on Thursday morning, local time.


Boeing has a fleet of four Dreamlifters to transport assemblies for its 787 Dreamliners
It is not yet clear how the plane will leave Jabara airport.

Local news station KWCH reports that Boeing hopes to fly the Dreamlifter out of the small airport.

The cargo plane normally requires a runway of 2,780m (9,119ft) to take off at maximum weight, it says, and the tug dispatched to the airport to turn the jumbo around has broken down en route.

The Dreamlifter, which landed at Jabara on Wednesday evening, is a modified 747-400 passenger aeroplane, which can carry more cargo by volume than any aeroplane in the world, according to Boeing.

The aerospace company uses its fleet of four Dreamlifters to transport large assembled components of its 787 Dreamliner from suppliers around the world to the final assembly location in Washington state.

The City of Wichita tweeted that no one was injured and no property damage occurred when the plane landed.
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:19 AM   #2
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Geeesh. In this day and age with all the electronic gadgetry aboard today's planes from Cessna 152's to Boeing's one would think the pilot in charge would at least land at the right airport. Hmmm...wonder if the tower made a phone call to the FAA to have the pilot do some explaining....
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:20 AM   #3
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they had to have a reason to land their because something that size is always IFR approach and the approach plate states all the info they need to navigate and fly the approach including miss procedures. I will have to look at my charts at work tonight for that airport. dont think they are that stupid to not talk about the runway lengths and miss procedures. but all 3 crew members might of been knuckle heads
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:40 AM   #4
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they had to have a reason to land their because something that size is always IFR approach and the approach plate states all the info they need to navigate and fly the approach including miss procedures. I will have to look at my charts at work tonight for that airport. dont think they are that stupid to not talk about the runway lengths and miss procedures. but all 3 crew members might of been knuckle heads
They missed the airport they were talking to and landed at one six miles away, I guess they were at least close in flying terms anyway.
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:55 AM   #5
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They missed the airport they were talking to and landed at one six miles away, I guess they were at least close in flying terms anyway.
but their approach freqs had to be tuned in and they always fly the localizer and glide slope form the approach plate to said airport. their DME had to be off by six miles which would of been a huge red flag in their heads. they could of used the other airports nav info for a approach to the airport but that would of been wrong. just too many things that had to transpire to land at a wrong airport with a plane that size. but it could happen I guess
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:25 AM   #6
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I'm thinking no cargo and minimum fuel should be able to takeoff.
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:27 AM   #7
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BBC News - Jumbo jet mistakenly lands at tiny Kansas airport

This is where I was reading about it.
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:29 AM   #8
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From a pilot's perspective, this is easier to do than you think; ESPECIALLY since today's pilots are trained to "trust the computer" rather than their Mark One Eyeball.

In a two pilot aircraft, one pilot is supposed to enter the Airport Identifier is the Flight Director and the other is supposed to verify it. It just takes one mistake, not caught by the other pilot to result in this kind of mishap.

Some flight management software is so smart it can actually set up the preferred approach for the selected airport without any further pilot action.

It is further Murphied by the Navaid identifier for the final approach fix (FAF) at the "big" airport to be physically located at the "minor" airport. Inserting the FAF as the destination can result in the Distance Measuring Equipment (DME) readout being correct for the wrong airport of intended landing.

Many close airports have runways have similarly aligned runways due to the prevailing winds.

This happens way more than you might think. I remember during a low visibility night, an F-4 that landed at Ogden Muni (located right on final north of Hill AFB). Cleared to land at Hill (but not in sight), the pilot spotted Ogden's runway and "went for it". After touchdown, he popped his braking chute. The pilot or Nav saw all the general aviation aircraft on the lit ramp; did an "Oh S..."; punched off his drag chute; plugged in the afterburner and aborted the landing. On climb out he saw Hill, swooped around and landed safely at the base. Since Hill's tower was unaware of the "transgression," The pilot neglected to mention it.

Later at the Officer's club, the base commander and security tracked him down and placed his drag chute on the shocked pilot's table. Seems the Airport Manager picked up the drag chute laying in the grass by the side of his runway and drove it over to the base.
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I'm thinking no cargo and minimum fuel should be able to takeoff.
They are reporting they might be able to.
This is a 747 Dreamlifter. It is HUGE.
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It is further Murphied by the Navaid identifier for the final approach fix (FAF) at the "big" airport to be physically located at the "minor" airport.
dont under stand how they missed the IAF`s (initial approach fixes) that is the most important setup , also they missed the DME at each fix on their approach and the min`s at each waypoint in the approach. guess they just winged it and flew a visual approach to what they saw in front of them. but at 6 miles away another runway would be lit up and and tower would have a visual on their decent to TD, trust me they have lots of lights and everyone would be on
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