Another one ...

[B47]

Just had another police chase on television in Fort Worth and as always, the guy being chased didn't get away.

I will never understand why these idiots think they can get away from police cars and helicopters - they can't outrun police radios and sooner or later they're going to run out of fuel, not to mention running on rims if the police can get a good hit with the nail strips.

But the biggest fear I always have when these chases occur is the chance that innocent people could get hurt or killed by these idiots when they're running - they have no respect or consideration for innocent people who may be hit or killed by their actions.

I'm done ranting.

[awwall]

B, I think your reasoning is why a lot of cities have stopped doing the chases for minor crimes. I would hate to think an innocent person was killed because a LEO for chasing someone for an expired license, etc.

[B47]

Originally Posted by awwall

B, I think your reasoning is why a lot of cities have stopped doing the chases for minor crimes. I would hate to think an innocent person was killed because a LEO for chasing someone for an expired license, etc.

I think some cities in the DFW area have enacted this practice, but the police never know if the person they pulled over will run and if the word gets out that the police won't pursue you, then anybody with a warrant out for them will possibly run - remember these guys don't care about anything or anybody but themselves.

Now learning that this guy I posted about is suspected of beating his wife and setting his house on fire and then hitting a firefighter with his pickup.

I was taught to always obey a policemans orders as I believe most of us here were also.

[david155]

As a cop I can say that if most officers knew that it was just a minor offense then yes terminate it. But we don't know that they are not running from something else. Remember an expired tag can turn into a person wanted for murder running

[schrederman]

There was a guy in Houston on a motorcycle that evaded police for a few days. Every time they spotted him he ran. He was really a good rider and seemed to always have a good strategy. He finally ran out of gas...

[B47]

Originally Posted by david155

As a cop I can say that if most officers knew that it was just a minor offense then yes terminate it. But we don't know that they are not running from something else. Remember an expired tag can turn into a person wanted for murder running

I'm not a cop, but what you say here is just what I thought in my post #3. You just never know what that guy you just stopped for a burnt out brake light has out for him.

I'm also amazed that some states allow the degree of window tinting they do - how do you know who or what is behind that side window,especially at night?

[david155]

Originally Posted by B47

I'm not a cop, but what you say here is just what I thought in my post #3. You just never know what that guy you just stopped for a burnt out brake light has out for him.

I'm also amazed that some states allow the degree of window tinting they do - how do you know who or what is behind that side window,especially at night?

I make them roll it down. I actually felt better in night stops because I can use my spot lights to blind then and create silhouette in the car and use the dark for concealment. But yes suvs and dark tint make for a hair raising moment

[avolnek]

I'm a no mercy type of guy. So I feel that if someone is dumb enough to run he should be fair game. I feel an officer has the right to draw their weapon and take the dumba.. out.

This whole country cares too much what other people are going to feel and think because we have all become way too dang sensitive.

If someone is going to disobey the law and endanger several others I feel an officer has to make that judgment call and potentially take them out... If they are running from law enforcement obviously they aren't a real beneficial specimen for our country...

[OldCoot]

Don't know why the chase can't be done in the air instead of on the ground. Could it not be done without the high speed also by using the radios and strategically placed cars? OR, just shoot the tires out.

[ses]

Lack of respect is the problem. Lord what my Dad would've done to me! My tail hurts just thinking about it! Of course, that's abuse nowadays!

[Golflover]

Also being a cop, departmental policy determines the pursuit policy. Also Lts. can call it off at anytime if they feel the officer is not being reasonable in his actions. Any traffic stop can "go south" (no offense to my southern brothers) in a heartbeat.

What would have happened if Timothy McVeigh had run from his stop? In 27 years I have seen guns, knives and axes pulled out on traffic stops. NYS has the window tint law and patrol carries the meters and writes the tickets for over excessive tint.

I am glad to only have 3 years left to go so I can camp full time

[B47]

Originally Posted by david155

I make them roll it down. I actually felt better in night stops because I can use my spot lights to blind then and create silhouette in the car and use the dark for concealment. But yes suvs and dark tint make for a hair raising moment

I never thought about the rolling down bit - good practice.

[B47]

Originally Posted by OldCoot

Don't know why the chase can't be done in the air instead of on the ground. Could it not be done without the high speed also by using the radios and strategically placed cars? OR, just shoot the tires out.

I think that the helicopter is very useful for following the runner, but you still need the boots on the ground close by when the guys finally stops or is stopped.

Radios ? - that's what I always say about these chases - you just can't outrun the police radio, but these idiots are just too dumb to know that.

[CSMRetired]

Originally Posted by Golflover

Also being a cop, departmental policy determines the pursuit policy. Also Lts. can call it off at anytime if they feel the officer is not being reasonable in his actions. Any traffic stop can "go south" (no offense to my southern brothers) in a heartbeat.

What would have happened if Timothy McVeigh had run from his stop? In 27 years I have seen guns, knives and axes pulled out on traffic stops. NYS has the window tint law and patrol carries the meters and writes the tickets for over excessive tint.

I am glad to only have 3 years left to go so I can camp full time

We say "go south" too, that just means it's a bad deal.

Our great country has taken a southern route, if you ask me. Someone mentioned you can't do or say much anymore without someone being "offended"
There are lots of folks, some young, some old, that have absolutley no respect for human life, personal belongings or anything else for that matter.
Things have changed....much to the dismay of those of us who were raised under the guidance of "spare the rod, spoil that child"
now we need a village for some reason.
I could take this 14,000 different direections, but I won't. I am still fairly new here and some things are better left unsaid.

[Taylorgso]

Originally Posted by ses

Lack of respect is the problem. Lord what my Dad would've done to me! My tail hurts just thinking about it! Of course, that's abuse nowadays!

X2
And I love him dearly. Punishment is not abuse.

[B47]

Originally Posted by Taylorgso

X2
And I love him dearly. Punishment is not abuse.

"Punishment is not abuse" you say. Better not let the U.S. Supreme Court or the ACLU hear you say that - we would have to empty all of our prisons!

[Golflover]

Originally Posted by CSMRetired

We say "go south" too, that just means it's a bad deal.

Our great country has taken a southern route, if you ask me. Someone mentioned you can't do or say much anymore without someone being "offended"
There are lots of folks, some young, some old, that have absolutley no respect for human life, personal belongings or anything else for that matter.
Things have changed....much to the dismay of those of us who were raised under the guidance of "spare the rod, spoil that child"
now we need a village for some reason.
I could take this 14,000 different direections, but I won't. I am still fairly new here and some things are better left unsaid.

Among those of us who do the job we all know what "going sought" means. I was just making sure I didn't offend anyone who lives south of the Mason-Dixon My friends in Myrtle Beach and Greenville SC always use the term also.. Is just a universal statement of bad times....

[B47]

Originally Posted by Golflover

Among those of us who do the job we all know what "going sought" means. I was just making sure I didn't offend anyone who lives south of the Mason-Dixon My friends in Myrtle Beach and Greenville SC always use the term also.. Is just a universal statement of bad times....

I know what the term means, but in today's PC world, I won't be surprised if some Southerner files a discrimation suit some day.

[Taylorgso]

Originally Posted by B47

"Punishment is not abuse" you say. Better not let the U.S. Supreme Court or the ACLU hear you say that - we would have to empty all of our prisons!

Good point...
I could have expounded and said "and abuse is not punishment."
Those that don't know the difference are best advised to do neither.
Courts have generally upheld spanking children by parents, but not by schools, etc. And if the spanking results in physical injury, that's another matter entirely!

[CSMRetired]

Originally Posted by Golflover

Among those of us who do the job we all know what "going sought" means. I was just making sure I didn't offend anyone who lives south of the Mason-Dixon My friends in Myrtle Beach and Greenville SC always use the term also.. Is just a universal statement of bad times....

There is no offense taken here. In my 30 year career, there were a few...well several situations that tended to go south.
I venture most Southerners take things pretty light, at least in my neck of the woods.