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Old 08-25-2016, 10:56 AM   #31
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Several have said if u can't afford it then stay at home BS. There are those of us that scrimp n save n pass on other thing so we can see this wonderful country we have read and heard about so any little thing helps. We have paid our dues one way or the other and sometime it sounds like if we can't work anymore then just throw us away, again BS. Those that want this done away with I guess are more wealthy than others. GOOD for you, but The rest of us do the best we can so we can travel n see this wonderful country. I am in now way trying to put or bash anyone down but they seem to be doing a good job doing to us
Not bashing you for your situation. there are some on this forum that are wealthy. There are some that are poor. I think i am somewhere in the middle. I live in a crappy house in the city so i can spend my money on trips and going places instead of keeping up with the Jones.

My point is the $10 lifetime pass doesn't make sense economically. If you can afford to travel this beautiful country, you can afford to pay $10 a year for a pass or even 80 like most of us.
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:23 AM   #32
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Not bashing you for your situation. there are some on this forum that are wealthy. There are some that are poor. I think i am somewhere in the middle. I live in a crappy house in the city so i can spend my money on trips and going places instead of keeping up with the Jones.

My point is the $10 lifetime pass doesn't make sense economically. If you can afford to travel this beautiful country, you can afford to pay $10 a year for a pass or even 80 like most of us.

X2. We pay as we took our daughters to several and want them around ~updated and safe ~ for our grandchildren.
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:27 AM   #33
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I guess I look at it from an entirely different perspective. IF the older generation has a lot of disposable income, can afford Motorhomes and the expensive RV's as the author mused.....then to me it's great marketing on the National Parks (or any parks) part to offer discounts to attract this age group.

Since they have more time (being retired and aren't just weekenders), then they can spend more money at the parks that offer camping and will be at the parks during the week and other off peak times, as compared to the younger generation, who have to get back to work on Monday.

I think that fact has been ignored in this, and to which the seniors contribute to the park and local economy with all their camping/spending. If the parks offer them discounts to get them to come, but they end up making more money from them, due to how long they stay and other things they buy...as opposed to a younger family only staying a few days..... then it makes a LOT of sense economically to offer discounts to entice them to come....since this demographic could go elsewhere.

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Old 08-25-2016, 11:30 AM   #34
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While i agree with the statement about quantity, I will disagree that the quality has improved. Its well documented that the National Parks are in dire need of additional funding. I am sure this is a very unpopular statement, but the author is right.

It would actually make more sense for the NPS to create a Family pass that any family with a kid under 18 gets in until the kids turns 18 for $10. I have worked for almost 30 years and expect to work another 20. I don't believe that entitles me to have free visits to the National Parks.

BTW, a standard 1 year pass is 80 for all parks. Lets face it, if we can't afford that a year, we really can't afford the gas to get to camp either


I agree.

Not a popular opinion I can see... but I don't see why reaching a certain age should entitle one to free stuff. If private industry wants to do that, so be it. Free market and all. But not the government.

Veterans... now that is a different story. The sacrifices they endure during and after service... they should get much, much more.


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Old 08-25-2016, 11:31 AM   #35
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:37 AM   #36
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While this can be argued a hundred different ways, I don't think that "because I've paid my dues" is a legitimate reason. What dues would one be talking about? Military service? (of which I'm all for lifetime free pass) Taxes paid over a lifetime? (some pay a lot more than others, should there be a threshold for free lifetime pass?) I'm not saying this to be argumentative, but if you got your lifetime pass for $10 and next year or 5 - 10 yrs from now they started charging $10 per year, would you be just as upset for those who have "paid their dues?"
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:44 AM   #38
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Sr income is lowered usually and a discount is understandable. However, $10 for life seems a little over the top. If someone can pay $10 once I would think $10 annually would not hurt. Just my 2 cents. Shocked some still have money for beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets, Star Bucks coffee, meals out, and more ~~ but $10 hurts. Just my 2 cents and we know how far that amount goes today.
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:46 AM   #39
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My senior pass is good for myself and three others with me. Not sure why others should benefit from my pass. My wife is not old enough to have the senior pass and she gets in free because of me. I'll give you another situation with the Shenandoah National Park (Skyline Drive). I purchase one pass for my wife and I because we both ride motorcycles and the pass is good for 4 wheels!
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This poster is simply exercising her right as an American citizen to voice her opinion about a certain topic. Agree with her or not,this right is/was given to her by all of us who fought for this nations freedom. I believe some of you who fought for that right are forgetting that while you are waving the flag criticizing her.
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