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Old 12-27-2011, 10:08 AM   #31
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Kudos to all that herk. What are some of these possible unthought of hazards to casting about looking for a camping spot. Just wondering. I hope to keep my casting about to a minimum.
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:41 AM   #32
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Kudos to all that herk. What are some of these possible unthought of hazards to casting about looking for a camping spot. Just wondering. I hope to keep my casting about to a minimum.
The first that immediately comes to mind is your unstated assumption that you can just set up camp anywhere you please for free.

TANSTAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As Free Lunch (Robert Heinlein)

First off just about all land in the lower 48 is owned by someone. They may or may not appreciate some squatter showing up and using up resources owned by them. Even BLM land is owned by the BLM (Bureau of land Management). They don't like squatters any more than any one else does.

National and State Forests should be avoided at all costs since most folks will think they are ideal spots and head there. Without full time guards and State Trooper backup, limited access and egress will make them death traps for the solo squatter.

State Game Lands would at first glance be ideal. However even a cursory inspection would show they are located near folks who would resent you living in the "King's Forest." There is a large one smack dab between our primary location and a local hunting club who I assure you would would police their side as assiduously as we will be policing ours. We are also members BTW. (a "sunk cost").

Others may have other ideas, but I think the "romance" of your logic will soon be overcome by the reality.
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:53 AM   #33
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Unstated assumption huh? You know what they say about assume, makes an ASS out of U and ME.

All common sense stuff herk. I'll be fine. Funny thing about us underdogs, we tend to be very tenacious.

Romantic? I don't even know how to respond to that. Bein just a poor dumbass kid and all.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:03 AM   #34
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Unstated assumption huh? You know what they say about assume, makes an ASS out of U and ME.

All common sense stuff herk. I'll be fine. Funny thing about us underdogs, we tend to be very tenacious.

Romantic? I don't even know how to respond to that. Bein just a poor dumbass kid and all.
Jared, I did not mean to presume you had not "done your homework." If you have, I totally apologize. Just thought I would mention that "overdogs" can be quite tenacious too. An ounce of prevention is all.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:21 AM   #35
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Just remember. There ain't nutin' north of the American border but icicles, igloos, snowmen and hungry bears.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:23 AM   #36
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Sorry herk, just a little sensitive to condescending behavior directed towards me or others. A little is understandable, I'm totally guilty of it myself. I've just had to deal w so much of it lately and the result is getting stuck in a bad situation wondering why I can't seem to learn to trust my gut and not get involved w people like that in the first place. Almost always hallmarked by the typical patroniization that thay cant seem to contain, and i always try to give folks the benefit of doubt, much to my chagrin. So there's a little grudge there.

But you're cool herk, guess it's just a knee-jerk reaction. My bad.
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The big issue will be food, not the availability of it, but the affordability. Most have lost the knowledge required to be truly self-sufficient.
So even if one could find a place to hide out, they would still require some form of income in order to buy food.
With the government faced with the choice between cutting expenditures, or printing greenbacks to pay the bills, they will no doubt opt for printing money by the trillions, and that will bring on deflation of the currency, and that will be reflected in inflation, massive inflation.

And the money available through social support programs will not keep up with inflation, so the less fortunate will see their circumstances continue to deteriorate.

I really am concerned for the segment of society that the rich want to pretend not to exist. There should not be people facing such hardship in what is supposed to be such a great nation.
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Dang croc keep all that reality to urself. Lol
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:10 PM   #39
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Just remember. There ain't nutin' north of the American border but icicles, igloos, snowmen and hungry bears.
Sorry, but many great BO locations are north of the border.

Getting there could be problematic, however. (Especially dragging your bug out home behind you.) Purchasing your BO land along the northern border is a strategic decision with lots of merit. Not my first choice as I could not get there "on a tank of gas." Additionally, unless you know them very well, most Canadians would also feel "put out" by a large influx of hungry Zombies from the states. (See buckshot comment below)

Also most scenarios requiring relocation will most likely also involve our northern neighbor.
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Jared,
There are a few parks very close to home for you. Ozarks is just down the road and Lake sequoyah to name two.

I have flown into Cecil Smith Field several times in my career and the area is a good one for a "Shelter in Place" strategy.

Find a farmer with similar interests and make nice.
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