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Old 03-19-2013, 04:31 AM   #31
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When I get to where I am going I get out look over my site .Then when I leave I hook up pull out then I get back out and check out everything before I leave
I do the same thing. I pull about 30 yards from the site and then go back and check the whole site over. (Sometimes you surprise yourself and see something of your own that you didn't mean to leave behind. A clothes line, something leaning against a tree, something that was stored under the camper, a faucet splitter etc.) I agree with Arjerram also. I have seen campers, more than once, leave a site with a fire still burning in the fire ring. That's a very risky thing to do, even contained in a fire ring, because you never know about fire. The area of South Carolina I live in is loaded with pine trees. Pine needles, or pine straw as they are called here, are extremely flammable and are constantly falling off the trees. In fact, I use a couple of handfuls as kindling to light my camp fire instead of paper. That's how flammable they are, and to leave a fire burning unattended is pure negligence on the part of an inconsiderate camper. I think the Scout experienced campers will agree with me. Never leave a fire unattended!
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:54 AM   #32
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We dry camp in a state forest in upper lower Michigan. You cannot imagine the garbage that people dump in the gulleys, along side of the roads and in the camping spots. I guess when they were brought up, their homes were just full of garbage as well. We've pulled into the sites we always use there and have found live pine trees cut down and dragged over to the fire pit and placed on top of the fire, whole and then left there. We've been going up there for over 30 years and it is getting worse. One night near midnight a couple of vehicles pull up near where we were camping and dropped off a boat full of garbage and then threw large rocks through the fiberglass hull. We didn't discover what all the noise was and what was left there until morning when it was light enough to see. It just boggles the mind how thoughtless some people are. We all have rakes to get some of the empty cartridges and shotgun shells picked up along with tabs and cigarette butts. It's just a habit with the people we camp with to clean up the sites we use. When you are driving along on the quads or dirt bikes and see fridges and stoves that have been thrown off to the side of the trails it really makes you shake your head a lot. I'm glad I'm not a people. We'll head up there in May and we'll see what we find this time around. Stay safe all.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:59 AM   #33
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My #1 thing is dog #2 all over the camp site !!! That sets me off.........
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:17 AM   #34
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My #1 thing is dog #2 all over the camp site !!! That sets me off.........
Owners allowing Dogs to bark 24/7 sets me off.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:25 AM   #35
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We dry camp in a state forest in upper lower Michigan. You cannot imagine the garbage that people dump in the gulleys, along side of the roads and in the camping spots. I guess when they were brought up, their homes were just full of garbage as well. We've pulled into the sites we always use there and have found live pine trees cut down and dragged over to the fire pit and placed on top of the fire, whole and then left there. We've been going up there for over 30 years and it is getting worse. One night near midnight a couple of vehicles pull up near where we were camping and dropped off a boat full of garbage and then threw large rocks through the fiberglass hull. We didn't discover what all the noise was and what was left there until morning when it was light enough to see. It just boggles the mind how thoughtless some people are. We all have rakes to get some of the empty cartridges and shotgun shells picked up along with tabs and cigarette butts. It's just a habit with the people we camp with to clean up the sites we use. When you are driving along on the quads or dirt bikes and see fridges and stoves that have been thrown off to the side of the trails it really makes you shake your head a lot. I'm glad I'm not a people. We'll head up there in May and we'll see what we find this time around. Stay safe all.
Wow Pipeman:

If it's a State Forest, where are the State Park Rangers? I know that almost all State run facilities have seriously cut back on expenditures for campgrounds, but your situation sounds serious. Old refrigerators and stoves? It sounds more like a city dump or recycling center than a campground. Have you tried contacting the necessary State individuals who are responsible for the park? I would. If those people are caught, there will be a penalty to pay! That really is a shame and I feel sorry for you and all the others who camp there.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:14 AM   #36
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How about people that feel the need to carve into trees and picnic tables? Personally I don’t care “John was here” but could he stop trying to set the picnic table on fire, pick up his beer caps and ask whoever he is in love with to dispose of the toilet she leaves behind the tree she pees at!

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I've been lucky in that most of the places I've camped at were generally left in good shape -although I do pick up whatever might be lying around.

The main thing I find wrong with sites is people leaving fire pits full of half-burned garbage.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:10 AM   #38
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We see the same type of disrespect for others in non-camping environments, too. In the large building where I work, the restrooms are filthy to the point of often being unusable. This is not the fault of the excellent cleaning people. They just can't keep up with the slobs who come in after them. After all, restrooms are only as clean as the last person who uses them.

This is unbelievable, but it actually has gotten to the point where signs were put up giving step-by-step directions on how to use the bathroom and leave it clean for the next person. Didn't work. I often go to several different bathrooms in the building before I find one I'll use.

And this building is NOT open to the public. These are people we actually hire, and these are the bathrooms they use on a daily basis but don't care enough about to keep them clean.

Outside, the smokers continually stamp out their butts and cover the sidewalk with them, despite repeated communications directing them not to do so. They just don't care.

I just don't think some parents these days are doing a good job of teaching their kids to respect others or themselves. Thank you to the folks on here who obviously ARE showing their kids how to leave facilities in better shape than they found them. I'm just afraid there aren't enough of you.
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