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Old 11-07-2014, 09:22 AM   #31
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Good links Turbs... I need E Free for my scoots and I've seen what E10 can do to outboards so I'm not a fan. I think today's systems are engineered to work fine in vehicle engines/tanks with E10 but the older stuff can get pretty trashed. Just thankful they didn't make E15!!
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They do make and sell E15 in KS and IA for sure. So beware when filling up in those states, as well as others, I base this on a trip a year ago through both states and I can only assume there are many more.

If your vehicle can use E85, you should be ok, but if designed for E10, you might have problems.

Living in Moab, I used E10 on all my vehicles for six years, and many people I know used it in ATVs/UTVs with NO problems. That is the only fuel they sell in Moab (other than diesel).

And I just replaced my fuel pump on my 2008 H3 and the fuel tank looked nice and clean as well as the fuel inside.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:42 AM   #32
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Here's good Ole ethanol at work.



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When I worked in the trade we use to see that a lot and that was way before E10, so it is not something new that you have just discovered, today the tank is plastic the lines are plastic the injector lines are high pressure line, try changing the filter more than once every ten years
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:06 AM   #33
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They do make and sell E15 in KS and IA for sure. So beware when filling up in those states, as well as others, I base this on a trip a year ago through both states and I can only assume there are many more.

If your vehicle can use E85, you should be ok, but if designed for E10, you might have problems.

Living in Moab, I used E10 on all my vehicles for six years, and many people I know used it in ATVs/UTVs with NO problems. That is the only fuel they sell in Moab (other than diesel).

And I just replaced my fuel pump on my 2008 H3 and the fuel tank looked nice and clean as well as the fuel inside.
Climate makes A BIG DIFFERENCE!

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When I worked in the trade we use to see that a lot and that was way before E10, so it is not something new that you have just discovered, today the tank is plastic the lines are plastic the injector lines are high pressure line, try changing the filter more than once every ten years
This is a 95 pickup.
Plastic tank

Fuel filter is 1 year old according to my records

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95 fuel system is not designed to run a high ethanol content fuel, it will eat what ever rubber it comes in contact with, add a little excess water and you get what you got, not good at all.
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:38 AM   #36
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95 fuel system is not designed to run a high ethanol content fuel, it will eat what ever rubber it comes in contact with, add a little excess water and you get what you got, not good at all.
Another point I'm trying to make....
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From AA1CAR.com article... that sounds pretty correct. Should be reasonably close on small stuff as far as hoses



All vehicles made in the U.S. since 1995 are required to have alcohol-resistant fuel systems, so the risk of damaging the rubber or plastic components in your fuel system with a single tank of E85 is minimal. Vehicles built since 2001 are even more resistant to alcohol so for those applications there is probably little or no danger of damaging anything.
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:29 PM   #38
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Doesn't work in my case....but I don't let fuel stand in the tanks that long. I pretty much burn it in a week or two. However, there were two times in MI where my personal vehicle remained home for a month long periods during the hot humid summer and never appeared to have a problem.

Prior to moving to Moab, I lived in MI for three years, and prior to that TN for seven years, and in those states, I used 10% ethanol in most cases and never experienced any problems with any of my vehicles from Pontiacs to Corvettes, and never had any problems with my government vehicles either; at least in regard to fuel.

MI and TN with summer temps in the 90s and humidity extremely high (summer and winter) vs. southern UT where summer temps hit 105, but there is no humidity unless it is raining.

(Just for clarification: TN from 1998 to 2005, MI from 2005-2008, UT from 2008-2014. I guess I could also throw in GA and NY but not sure if there was that much ethanol around then.)

Also add that on some of the GM forums, many advocate on E85 vehicles to run a tank of E85 through the system approx. every 10th fill up to clean the injectors. Not sure if this is accurate, not sure if it works, since my only E85 vehicle is 2013 and I have not lived anywhere E85 pumps are found.
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