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Old 03-26-2014, 07:05 PM   #21
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gas is still comparatively cheap. My olds goes 24 miles per gallon of gas. You couldn't get me to walk 24 miles for $3.79. Even at $10 a gallon, its cheap if you look at it the right way.

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Old 03-26-2014, 07:06 PM   #22
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If gas prices go up, how is he saving on his lawn mower fuel bill? Does he have a diesel lawn mower?
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:15 PM   #23
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How's this make you feel:
Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson received $24.7 million total compensation.
Exxon has received $600 million annual tax breaks. In 2011, Exxon paid just 13 percent in taxes. You and I average around 25%The company paid no taxes to the U.S. federal government in 2009, despite 45.2 billion record profits. It paid $15 billion in taxes, but none in federal income tax.
In fourth quarter 2012, Exxon bought back $5.3 billion of its stock, which enriches the largest shareholders and executives of the company. The buyback cost was taken as an expense against profits.
Exxon’s federal campaign contributions totaled $2.77 million for the 2012 cycle, sending 89 percent to Republicans.
The company spent $12.97 million lobbying in 2012 to protect low tax rates and block pollution controls and safeguards for public health.

In October, Chevron made the single-largest corporate donation in history. Chevron dropped $2.5 million with the Congressional Leadership Fund super PAC to elect House Republicans.
The bulk of Chevron’s federal contributions came from the super PAC donation, for a total of $3.87 million for the 2012 cycle. 85 percent went to Republicans.
Chevron spent $9.55 million lobbying Congress in 2012, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Chevron paid 19 percent U.S. taxes last year (half of the top corporate tax rate of 35 percent), and received an estimated $700 million in annual tax breaks

Now that we know how the greedy ba$t@rd$ get away with it what are we going to do about it??
Every time some arab has a wet fart the Oil Elites use it as an excuse to raise prices.
And we still believe that if we become oil self sufficient we'll somehow save money and keep prices low. Anybody seen that happen yet?? And we're not likely to either since the price is based on the world market price not what it costs to grow your own.
Plus all the political clout an industry earning over $100 BILLION a year in profits (that's right, not gross revenue, but pure profits) has with our illustrious leaders; well you get the point. There is no true free market competition in this industry.

My sincere apologizes for the soap box rant, but this fuel price thing just gets my goat.
Makes me feel that capitalism does work better than socialism.
Want to make those oil shieks fart more, let this country become TOTALLY independent of all imported oil as soon as possible. And it can be done, but it won't be done.
Just wait, a majority of states will be raising their fuel taxes in the next two years.
So that's my rant.
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:36 PM   #24
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Makes me feel that capitalism does work better than socialism.

Want to make those oil shieks fart more, let this country become TOTALLY independent of all imported oil as soon as possible. And it can be done, but it won't be done.

Just wait, a majority of states will be raising their fuel taxes in the next two years.

So that's my rant.

Becoming independent is going to do squat. Take a look at us, Canada produces more than it consumes (http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=ca) and we're still paying at least $1.00 a gallon more than stateside. Actual per barrel prices has very little to do with price. It all comes down to what the stores think people are willing to pay.
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:45 PM   #25
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Hmmmm, I live in Alberta and we're swimming in the stuff. We should be paying less per liter than they are in places like Dubia and Venezuela yet right now gas in Calgary is C$1.22.9 per liter. Thats roughly U$4.67 a gallon before taking into consideration the exchange rate. Diesel is presently C$1.38.9 per liter (U$5.27 per gallon).
The biggest problem we have is the lack of refining capacity. Oh and the taxes but I'm not going down that path.
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:48 PM   #26
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I filled up at our local Safeway 2 weeks ago at $3.17. Today it was $3.57. Even our nearby tribal Chevron was $3.55.

Compared to the UK, where it's headed above £1.50 a liter (about $9 a gallon), we aren't as bad off as some folks in the "civilized world". You can understand why the Brits consider the Honda Civic to be a "large family car". The pre-tax price in the UK is actually less than ours, but they put an outrageous tax on fuel, then let commercial operators (truckers, bus lines, airlines etc) get the tax back. The government takes the best part of a year to dish out the refunds, effectively getting a multi-million dollar loan from the transportation industry.

Most of the European nations have similar taxes. As an ex-pat Brit, I don't consider myself to be a European. There was a Daily Telegraph headliner back in the early 1950's that read "Fog in Channel - Continent Isolated". Sums up my attitude to the European nations pretty well and it's why we've lived in the US since 1968.
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:06 PM   #27
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Gas here is at $1.209 a litre or $4.59 a gallon..
Diesel is at around $1.40 a litre or $5.32 a gallon..

Can't wait to see what they peak at for camping season...
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Ex-pat Brit myself. Moved over to the "colonies" (joking!!) 11 years ago. I know just what you mean about the taxes on petrol. Then there's VAT, Road Fund Licence, etc.
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Gas here is at $1.209 a litre or $4.59 a gallon..
Diesel is at around $1.40 a litre or $5.32 a gallon..

Can't wait to see what they peak at for camping season...

Read an article on gas and diesel futures yesterday that indicate they might be heading down for the summer season but I don't quite see it yet. Keeping my fingers crossed 'cos I have some camping plans for the summer south of the 49th.
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:18 PM   #30
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I live in Moab UT, I leave town to get lower gas prices. Not sure it has ever dropped below $3.39 all winter. And now with the tourist season just beginning...it is going up about $.10 per week and it is not due to a gas shortage or a refinery change over, or any natural disasters; it is due to the local owned service stations raping the tourists and the locals.

But won't complain. My H3 gets about 14 MPG, my Silverado about 20. However, when towing, the H3 drops to 8 and the Silverado drops to around 14. So gas is a price of going on vacations.
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