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Old 11-12-2013, 05:45 PM   #1
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Good idea gone wrong at home

I live in the city and the back of my house is 6' from the property line, and my neighbor's fence. On their side of the fence is a huge tulip tree, which has huge leaves, and every Fall, many of their leaves, end up in my gutter... the pic shows how large these leaves are compared to a normal size leaf. Plus the tulip tree has alot of other debris, similar to the 'whirly-birds' from maple trees....and these really clog up my gutters.

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So, I decided to get pro-active and install gutter guards that I bought at Ace Hardware, figuring this would be the last Fall, that I would have to drag out the extention ladder.....yeah right.

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Last week, after it rained, I could hear something drip, drip, dripping on my aluminum window awnings, and it wasn't like the normal pitter-patter of rain.

When I went outside, it seemed that the water was coming off the roof, rolling across the gutter guard and over the edge of the gutter, instead of the water going through the holes in the guard, into the gutter.

At this point, I figured that when it rained, I would just put up with the annoying dripping sound...annoying, very similar to a drippy bathroom faucet in the middle of the night....because these gutter guards are keeping those leaves out of my gutter!!! My mind was only working in Fall Yard Work mode....not Winter mode.

Well, today it snowed for the 1st time this fall/winter season. Again I heard the drip, drip, drip on my aluminum awnings. Upon examination, I found this "accident waiting to happen".....

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I took one look at those mini icicles and my mind immediately went to....the middle of winter....mamouth icicles pulling the gutter OFF my house.... and then the falling mamouth icicles + gutters....pulling the awnings OFF the house....probably in the middle of the night.

Now, I have to climb back up on the extention ladder, that I didn't want to haul out again, and remove the gutter guards and just put up with the leaves.....OR.....can anyone think of a way I might be able to adjust or alter the gutter guards, so that they work better????
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:59 PM   #2
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What about zap strapping something to the middle of the gutter protector like a hose or piece of wood trim..? Place it half way or so down the length, should stop most of the water and when it freezes and thaws the run off should flow over the hose or trim into the gutter..?

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I have the same cheap DIY gutter guards and am not happy with them. We don't deal with cold and ice like you show already- but the water does just come off of them.

I've removed them from the front of our house and just periodically clean the leaves out.

I would like one of the commercial "Gutter Helmet" type of professionally installed products, but haven't ever gotten quotes and assume it's out of my price range.
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Related?

I just noticed the ad for an insurance Co. with a picture of Mike Holmes next to this thread...

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Old 11-12-2013, 07:07 PM   #5
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Hi,
The reason your gutter covers are not working is because they allow the snow to form to ice on top of them.
Even the professional "gutter helmet" type of covers will do the same for $20.00 / per LF installed.
The reason gutters clog with ice is because when the snow hits the heated portion of your roof, it melts and as that melted water runs down to your unheated overhang, it freezes and clogs the gutter toppers. The remaining water flows over the frozen gutter and creates icicles or worse, ice dams.
The only way to keep the gutters flowing is to install Roof De-Icing Cables
I use the cables on some of my gutter runs and have no icicle issues at all. I use the downspout screens similar to these but are a little wire basket shaped like a light bulb that fit into the downspout from the inside of the gutter.
Once a year i do still pull the downspout screen to clean them but no issues because the remaining debris runs down the downspout onto the lawn.
You could cut your DIY screens around the heat cables but it would be more of a PITA that it is worth IMO.
You could have the cables installed by a local handy man but you would have to pay the PITA charge for him to cut around the cables.
Keep us posted.
Yes, in another life I sold the $20 per LF all day long and laughed when the customer said they froze in the winter and caused icicles when I sold them exactly what they wanted.. To never clean leaves out of the gutters again but we never mentioned the icicle issue.
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Long termite drill bit and concentrated Round Up. We killed a bunch of olive trees on the other side of a fence, but with the other property owners permission. We took down the trees and even paid for the dumpster to haul the debris away. Problem solved.
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Cut off all of the limbs that hang over the property line.
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Cut off all of the limbs that hang over the property line.
Oh yea,and stop the Wind from blowing the rest of the leaves over on your property also? Youroo!!
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Oh yea,and stop the Wind from blowing the rest of the leaves over on your property also? Youroo!!
Didn't you get the anti-wind device I sent? It stops all the pine needles from falling and deflects the leaves into the neighbors yard.
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:08 AM   #10
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Cut off all of the limbs that hang over the property line.
Been there, done that....this spring. Cost me $$$$ to hire a tree crew to come in with their bucket truck and trim 3 trees, that had unwanted branches hanging on my side of neighbors fence.....boy did those trees look stupid.
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