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Old 07-23-2013, 01:12 PM   #11
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Are you coming to Goshen to get your serum shot or do I need to find a horse doc in Dallas to inject it? Keep goin' and we'll send the funnel and hose we're going to use on FT Turbs.
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:24 PM   #13
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Are you coming to Goshen to get your serum shot or do I need to find a horse doc in Dallas to inject it? Keep goin' and we'll send the funnel and hose we're going to use on FT Turbs.
Unfortunately we won't be able to make the trip to Goshen and its not because you will be there

As far as "Dallas" goes - you seem to have a lot of trouble with my address ( referring to your recent feeble attempt to mail me a $1.00 check). When you live on the Fort Worth side of the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex, having someone say you live in Dallas or do business in Dallas amounts to fighting words.
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised by this, but our local newspaper, the Fort Worth Star Telegram, had started blocking Internet access to it. When you open their site, you get a flash that basically tells you provide your paid subscription password or sign up for it. This blocking is run from time to time and usually for about a week at a time and then it stops for awhile.

The Dallas Morning News has also started blocking Internet access, but it seems to be on a much limited basis, at least for now.

I realize that other newspapers and publications are now doing this also. I'm assuming the reason is because they are losing revenues when people stop paying for subscriptions and instead go to the Internet.

I can understand them doing this, but it still bugs me when I get blocked and no, I haven't gotten a paid subscription - yet!

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Having been a newspaper managing editor for 23 years, I can tell you that it costs money to produce a news product. Reporters, editors and photographers do not work for free, and news organizations are businesses, not public utilities. They have to turn a profit or they fold, just like any other business.

I got out of it before the internet really became a factor, so I'm not up-to-date on all the current newspaper issues, but I'll be surprised if physical, hold-in-your-hand newspapapers last as long as I do. Already, formerly great newspapers like the Times-Picayune in New Orleans can no longer afford to publish a print issue every day of the week. Sad.

They will do what they have to do to stay in business, and that's going to continue to include charging money for their product, whether it's delivered via paper and ink or over the internet.
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Old 07-23-2013, 02:05 PM   #15
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Having been a newspaper managing editor for 23 years, I can tell you that it costs money to produce a news product. Reporters, editors and photographers do not work for free, and news organizations are businesses, not public utilities. They have to turn a profit or they fold, just like any other business.

I got out of it before the internet really became a factor, so I'm not up-to-date on all the current newspaper issues, but I'll be surprised if physical, hold-in-your-hand newspapapers last as long as I do. Already, formerly great newspapers like the Times-Picayune in New Orleans can no longer afford to publish a print issue every day of the week. Sad.

They will do what they have to do to stay in business, and that's going to continue to include charging money for their product, whether it's delivered via paper and ink or over the internet.
I've never been in the newspaper business, but I can understand how the Internet has changed the business. It's changed not only the newspaper business, but its impacted the USPS and the tradional brick and mortar stores also.

My point is that I get perturbed when my local newspaper blocks my Internet access to it - call me spoiled if you want.
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Unfortunately we won't be able to make the trip to Goshen and its not because you will be there

As far as "Dallas" goes - you seem to have a lot of trouble with my address ( referring to your recent feeble attempt to mail me a $1.00 check). When you live on the Fort Worth side of the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex, having someone say you live in Dallas or do business in Dallas amounts to fighting words.
I know, it's because of FT Turbs, but we'll keep that between us. Never got your whole address you old codger or you would have gotten your da-- dollar. It and the envelope are already in the trailer for me to give to one of your Dallas/Ft. Worth Metroplex friends if you have any.
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I've never been in the newspaper business, but I can understand how the Internet has changed the business. It's changed not only the newspaper business, but its impacted the USPS and the tradional brick and mortar stores also.

My point is that I get perturbed when my local newspaper blocks my Internet access to it - call me spoiled if you want.
You are right that it has impacted everything, but have the USPS and those brick-and-mortar stores started giving you their products for free? If not, you shouldn't expect the newspapers to give you their product for free, either.

I think newspapapers initially began making their products available on the internet because they didn't know WHAT to do to compete in that new technology. When the smoke cleared, they realized it didn't make much sense to charge traditional subscribers for their product when anyone could get it for free online.

I know it's hard for readers to break that internet habit, but the businesses that know how to survive are not giving free rides anymore.
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You are right that it has impacted everything, but have the USPS and those brick-and-mortar stores started giving you their products for free? If not, you shouldn't expect the newspapers to give you their product for free, either.

I think newspapapers initially began making their products available on the internet because they didn't know WHAT to do to compete in that new technology. When the smoke cleared, they realized it didn't make much sense to charge traditional subscribers for their product when anyone could get it for free online.

I know it's hard for readers to break that internet habit, but the businesses that know how to survive are not giving free rides anymore.
You're right in everything you say here. In my defense, I never said I expect any business to give me their product free. I simply said I was "perturbed" now when I was able to access my local newspaper on the Internet for free and now it seems that is changing. I'll get over it.
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You're right in everything you say here. In my defense, I never said I expect any business to give me their product free. I simply said I was "perturbed" now when I was able to access my local newspaper on the Internet for free and now it seems that is changing. I'll get over it.
Yes, sir. I guess we'll all have to get over it, and it's not easy when they start out letting you have it for free. Couldn't agree more. Thanks for sharing your intelligent viewpoint. I hardly ever get to discuss the newspaper business anymore.
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I was told (I don't know by who) that newspaper subscriptions just paid for the paper and the ink and advertisement paid everything else. If this is true can't they make their money that way?
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