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Old 11-25-2013, 09:55 PM   #21
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And speaking of rights, how many of you read the story about the guy in New Mexico who was stopped by a cop because he didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign in a WalMart parking lot?

Traffic stop brings 3 enemas, 2 X-rays and 1 colonoscopy in cops' fruitless drug search, suit says

All because he "clenched his buttocks". Submitted to more than 12 hours of molestation (no other way to describe what was done to him) with an illegal search warrant ....warrant was for one county and the molestation was done in a different county, and the time had expired on the warrant.

I hope this guy OWNS that town when this lawsuit is over. And since he came forward with this molestation, at least one other guy has come forward with the same story.

Constitutional? No way on God's green earth, but you can't un ring that bell.

Oh and that drug dog was not accredited. Besides, cops can train a drug dog to "false hit" on command.
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Old 11-25-2013, 09:59 PM   #22
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Cowracer (love your name btw) *so* many things going on these days are unconstitutional, but yet they continue.

No, I won't be going to a state that won't allow me to modify something that IS MINE.

The "voluntary" DNA sample taking in TX scares me too. Texas is the last state I'd expect that to happen.

One lady stated that she was told it was voluntary, but when she declined and tried to drive through they wouldn't allow it, and "herded" her into the parking area instead. Keep in mind these weren't police, but were people who had "contracted" to do this. NO authority whatsoever.

You do know there are "passive breathalizers" these days? The cop has it on his person with his "equipment", and as soon as you roll your window down it will pick up alcohol. Think that's constitutional?

And those who volunteered for the breathalyzer at that stop, guess what? on that disposable mouthpiece they got their DNA.

Yes, I'm a radical, married to a man who is even more radical, about our constitutional rights and privacy. We don't write checks, for *anything* because the information required is *none of their business*.

And I don't accept the "yeah you must have something to hide if you don't want to volunteer your DNA". No, I don't have anything to hide and everything to lose...my privacy and my constitutional rights...i.e. God *given* rights.

Hmm, just had a thought; does this law apply to non motorized vehicles? There was a thread a few weeks back about a compartment mod for a certain purpose.

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I'm staying on the sidelines here, but one portion of your post is incorrect - the Fort Worth Star Telegram report says that the people who pulled motorists off were " off-duty officers" - so I have to assume they were,in fact, police.

I agree with the rest of your post.

Goggle "Fort Worth Star Telegram"" and look for "Local Crime" on the front page - it's in small print.
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:00 PM   #23
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I don't think law abiding citizens have anything to worry about.

OC,

The first arrest was someone who had *nothing illegal*, meaning he was a law abiding citizen, except for that hidden compartment.

Yes, they are insinuating they were drug mules, but do they have any proof of that? Maybe they had a CCP and wanted to keep their carry piece safe from being stolen while they were out shopping?
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:01 PM   #24
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I'm staying on the sidelines here, but one portion of your post is incorrect - the Fort Worth Star Telegram report says that the people who pulled motorists off were " off-duty officers" - so I have to assume they were,in fact, police.

I agree with the rest of your post.

Goggle "Fort Worth Star Telegram"" and look for "Local Crime" on the front page - it's in small print.
It would have to be *very* small print, as I followed that closely. And let's say you're correct;

did that give them *authority* to do what they did? were they in uniform?
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It would have to be *very* small print, as I followed that closely. And let's say you're correct;

did that give them *authority* to do what they did? were they in uniform?
Actually go to "Crime Time" on the first page.
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Actually go to "Crime Time" on the first page.
**UPDATE TO THE VIDEO ABOVE** Fort Worth police initially said they could not immediately find any record of their officers being involved in the roadblock, but on Tuesday police spokesman Sgt. Kelly Peel said that the department's Traffic Division coordinated with the NHTSA on the use of off-duty officers after the agency asked for help with the survey.
"We are reviewing the actions of all police personnel involved to ensure that FWPD policies and procedures were followed," he said. "We apologize if any of our drivers and citizens were offended or inconvenienced by the NHTSA National Roadside Survey."

This makes it even *worse* B47. The presence of officers made it appear it was *not* voluntary. GRRRRRRRRRRR! (no angry icons to post here)
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OC,

The first arrest was someone who had *nothing illegal*, meaning he was a law abiding citizen, except for that hidden compartment.

Yes, they are insinuating they were drug mules, but do they have any proof of that? Maybe they had a CCP and wanted to keep their carry piece safe from being stolen while they were out shopping?
Don't shoot the messenger, I could care less one way or the other.
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Search and seizure laws have certainly changed in the last few years. Last summer I flew to Las Vegas and rented a car for two weeks, spending time in Pheonix with relatives and traveling the old west towns and parts of old rt 66. Just outside of Tombstone I was stopped by Homeland Security. The car was thoroughly searched for no reason whatsoever. Having spent 36 years in law enforcement in Ohio I knew the search was unlawful at least by the old time standards but I went along with their program. Thinking back I guess I am fortunate there was no drug residue from someone else who may have rented that car, who knows what was carried in that car before I rented it.....
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And what would be the "right way"?
The way in which it doesn`t violate everyone's rights!
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Like I said in an earlier post
"You guys have been brainwashed into thinking you live in a free country"
Since 2001 freedom has been lost in the name of safety but it has gone too far, I have a niece living in Texas and she was telling me she can get fined for her child missing kindergarten freedom has vanished.
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