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04-01-2019, 08:38 PM
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Some info/help w/ year model
This is for a friend. Looking to see if anyone else has run into this issue and what they did. My friend purchased a used tt from a dealer. All her paperwork showed the tt purchased is a 2017; however, the other day she received her title and it states the tt she purchased is a 2016.
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04-01-2019, 08:55 PM
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Built late '16.... '17 model year
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04-02-2019, 10:34 AM
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Site Team
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The VIN should be stamped on the right side of the tongue. It should start with 4X4 if it's a Forest River RV. Take that number and look online for a VIN decoder and it'll tell you the model year.
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04-02-2019, 10:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
The VIN should be stamped on the right side of the tongue. It should start with 4X4 if it's a Forest River RV. Take that number and look online for a VIN decoder and it'll tell you the model year.
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The vin lists it as a 2016 per DMV and the title. Problem all paperwork from dealer when purchased list as a 2017 and was advertised as a 2017. My friend is now looking at what recourse she may have against the dealer. She paid price based on 2017.
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04-02-2019, 10:53 AM
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The tenth digit of the VIN is the year model
G=2016
H=2017
J=2018
I would verify that the DMV got it correct first from the VIN..then go from there.
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04-02-2019, 11:37 AM
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I bought a 2013. I emailed Forrest River for the build sheet. Unit was built july '12, is posted as '13. Floor plan is '13, suspension is '12. I'm guessing unles unit built in middle of model year, nothing is certain.
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04-02-2019, 12:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gonefishing1
The vin lists it as a 2016 per DMV and the title. Problem all paperwork from dealer when purchased list as a 2017 and was advertised as a 2017. My friend is now looking at what recourse she may have against the dealer. She paid price based on 2017.
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I would suppose there could be recourse against the dealer if it was misrepresented and financial harm was incurred. Most lawyers would give the case a 30 minute "glance" for no charge and advise if there is a case.
I had a similar error on my dealers part. The Salesman wrote down one number of the VIN wrong. When I took the sales sheet to my insurance company for a quote they looked up the VIN and told me I had a Wildcat, not a Micro Lite. Big difference in insurance cost. I took a picture of the VIN tag and sent it to my Agent. He got it fixed and I didn't have to pay the higher rate. State Registration was done from Certificate of Origin or at least THAT part was right.
I guess the real question is whether there was any real damage incurred or is it just perceived?
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04-02-2019, 09:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
I would suppose there could be recourse against the dealer if it was misrepresented and financial harm was incurred. Most lawyers would give the case a 30 minute "glance" for no charge and advise if there is a case.
I had a similar error on my dealers part. The Salesman wrote down one number of the VIN wrong. When I took the sales sheet to my insurance company for a quote they looked up the VIN and told me I had a Wildcat, not a Micro Lite. Big difference in insurance cost. I took a picture of the VIN tag and sent it to my Agent. He got it fixed and I didn't have to pay the higher rate. State Registration was done from Certificate of Origin or at least THAT part was right.
I guess the real question is whether there was any real damage incurred or is it just perceived?
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Damage none. Problem is she paid the price for a 2017 and it’s a 2016. I would assum there is a price difference between 2016 and 2017.
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04-04-2019, 08:18 PM
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Question about my model
Just new to the forum. Currently have a 2012 Wildwood, model says T21CK. Getting ready to sell it to get into something a little bigger. Buyer goes to credit union to secure financing. They are having trouble finding this model, almost as if it doesn't exist. I search everywhere for it and am turning up nothing.
It is really confounding to me. Can anyone provide me any specifics on this model or why I cannot locate it and get ny information on it?
What is strange is that all I can find is the T21CK in 2011 but under Salem. All the stickers on my trailer say Wildwood by Forest River.
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04-06-2019, 06:21 PM
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When we bought our A-frame last summer (July/Aug), we wanted a 2018 because we didn't like the 2019 changes. Dealer had what VIN said was a 2019, but was exactly like the 2018s. Dealer explained and FR confirmed, that they start the next model year in April/May so the "newer" model year is available during the summer sale season. In the industry, they are called "early" 2019s, but have no changes from the 2018s. The changes for 2019 typically show up on the dealer lots in Sept/Oct.
FWIW, the "early" 2019 looked like it had been abused as it was being built - scratches on the paneling and poorly caulked windows and exterior fittings. Dealer took off another $600 for the shoddy construction, and still spent hours and hours making it as new as they could. Even vacuumed all the sawdust out of the interior. Result, we got a good trailer for a good price.
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early 2019 Flagstaff T21TBHW A-frame
2008 Hyundai Entourage minivan
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04-06-2019, 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Utahsooner
Just new to the forum. Currently have a 2012 Wildwood, model says T21CK. Getting ready to sell it to get into something a little bigger. Buyer goes to credit union to secure financing. They are having trouble finding this model, almost as if it doesn't exist. I search everywhere for it and am turning up nothing.
It is really confounding to me. Can anyone provide me any specifics on this model or why I cannot locate it and get ny information on it?
What is strange is that all I can find is the T21CK in 2011 but under Salem. All the stickers on my trailer say Wildwood by Forest River.
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That's because your Wildwood was manufactured by the West Coast FR factories.
Here's a link to the NADA listings. The 21CK was only made out West, not in the Midwest factories.
https://www.nadaguides.com/RVs/2012/...ifornia-Oregon
By the way, Wildwood and Salem are twin brands.
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