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3freedom 05-29-2016 11:18 PM

Air Bags
 
Yes I would install them in your truck. I also have a 3500 Dually GMC and I installed them in the truck. With a pin weight of our toy hauler at around 3300 pounds I found they really helped.

mlatter 05-29-2016 11:19 PM

I am in the "shock absorber" camp as well. The biggest difference ever on my rig was the installation of Rancho RS9000XL shocks, set at the firmest position. Bridge joints, and railroad tracks are a joke now compared to the original shocks - no bouncing around at all. Goes over them like a car. Air bags leveled the truck, but didn't change the ride much while towing. I think quality shocks are your best bang for the buck at this point.

tstillman 05-30-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BandJCarm (Post 1210218)
Thanks!

So, do you notice any adverse condition while driving the truck around town, or on highway, without the camper????

I recommend adding the bags. I drive an 2010 F350 SRW and experienced a pinion shutter that was totally eliminated with the addition of bags. All this without any ill side effects.

Good luck, of I were you I'd add them ASAP, oh yeah I did.

BandJCarm 05-31-2016 12:11 PM

The end....
They're being installed in the morning
!!!!

Thanks guys

emm-dee 05-31-2016 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tstillman (Post 1211307)
I recommend adding the bags. I drive an 2010 F350 SRW and experienced a pinion shutter that was totally eliminated with the addition of bags. All this without any ill side effects.

Good luck, of I were you I'd add them ASAP, oh yeah I did.

Pinion shudder. OK, thanks. I've been looking for that definition for a long time and glad someone mentioned a logical name for the problem. I googled it to verify and found some good info about it.

The 1500 series trucks of today, especially the Gen 4 Ram models, are more like a really big SUV. They are purposed for just everyday runaround and hauling light loads. They are also very capable TT pullers if one knows how to select the correct trailer and mods/additions.

The biggest problem with the Ram 1500 is that it is way overpowered for everyday use (not hauling). If you are sitting still and slam the throttle to the floor you will be introduced to some aggressive "wheel hopping". It's even worse on wet pavement. Sometimes it feels like the rear wheels are actually jumping off the pavement. But they are getting light enough during the "hop" that you will hear multiple quick tire squeals.

When I installed the airbags I noticed a significant reduction in hopping when set to 5 psi. At 12 psi the problem completely disappears. Obviously, the airbags have done a good job of stabilizing the rear end. Seeing the operation of the bags agrees with some technical articles I read regarding pinion shudder.

Add the airbags, E-load tires and a Class V hitch (attach points on the Class V extend further forward than a Class IV) and now you have a pretty good tow vehicle.

I'm not sure about the 2500/3500 trucks (or even other brands) but I think they have at least some of the same problem. I also have them on my 2500 Ram CTD and they really smooth things out.

BandJCarm 06-06-2016 08:05 AM

First minor test in an hour. Have an old 84 chevy truck hooked up on a car hauler trailer at the farm, heading 2 hours home shortly. I will mess with the remote to see what happens.

Big test next Tuesday....first camping trip....800 mile trip.

spock123 06-06-2016 10:11 AM

I put air bags, Firestone RideRite on my Silverado 2500 and I never noticed a difference. I have a Silverado 3500 now. But it's your money and it all comes down to what you like.


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dcheatwood 06-06-2016 10:14 AM

I have airlift 5000 bags on my half ton. Much better ride with 45-55 psi. Down to 5 psi when not towing. Normal ride then.

BandJCarm 06-10-2016 10:10 AM

OK, the big first trip starts Tuesday morning. I put 10 psi in the air bags around town and it's ok, fine.

I towed a car hauler with an old pickup truck on it (probably 4K pounds?) and played with the air bag settings. It did seem to matter if/when I aired up on the fly to about 35-45 psi.

One question........and I read this somewhere (?).........should I inflate the air bags to about 50 or so (???) BEFORE I hook up trailer? I can adjust via bluetooth on the fly anyway, and probably will.....so not sure why this would matter. But someone said to, I think.

??

tstillman 06-10-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BandJCarm (Post 1223188)
One question........and I read this somewhere (?).........should I inflate the air bags to about 50 or so (???) BEFORE I hook up trailer? I can adjust via bluetooth on the fly anyway, and probably will.....so not sure why this would matter. But someone said to, I think.

??

On my rig I played with it on a flat level surface to get the ride height level front to back and side to side with the load on board. When disconnected I noticed the rear bumper raise nearly 2.5 inches. I then measured the air pressure on each side. It measured at 48 Left and 50 right.

That is now my starting point to fill the bags before hooking up the 5th wheel. (Note with a load on I would assume the pressure in the airbags would be higher.) After trip is over I drop pressure to 5lbs in each which is the recommendation from the manufacturer.

Honestly I hardly notice anything is even back there and have not experienced any evidence of a rough ride in route to our destination.

Good questions. I'm sure you're going to enjoy this upgrade and happy camping. :trink39:


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