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Kat 12-14-2011 09:53 PM

Lippert Frame Defects on Wolfpack
 
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Noticed frame failure 2 months ago.This is on a 2008 Toyhauler Cherokee Wolfpack W295 that was bought new and never had more than 2 quads in it weighing 900ibs total. Never towed behind it either. I had the front cross member replaced and they welded a plate on the face of the rear cross meber, They also added gussets between the pin box and the cross members. All of this original steel was .097" It was replaced with .250" steel .Also replaced the bedroom wall that was cracked from the frame pushing through. I have called Lippert
Michael Locke, Customer Service Supervisor Lippert Components Inc
Customer Service Division Plant 39 ,866-524-7821 ,574-534-7161 Fax (mlocke@lci1.com) and
Forest river (bmiller@forestriverinc.com) Bob Miller ,Phone: 260-593-0023
Fax: 574-970-6879, and have been given the same answer as everyone else. Sorry out of warranty. My repair bill was $5400.
Working my way up the food chain as we speak.
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Dodge Guy 12-15-2011 12:51 PM

Too bad! and there are people out there that say Lippert is building RV trailers just fine! .097 wall for frame materials?!!!! ya they are trying to cut corners.

good luck!

Mountainmanbob 12-15-2011 02:20 PM

who ever welded that
 
from one who welded long ago
looks like some thin metals used there
and wow look at that weld
who ever welded that
and who ever passed it
should be very embarrassed

I know it was not the weld that broke
but
that weld bead is a sad one
either a F+ bead
or at the best a D-

my best friend still welds for a living
he and all who work with him
turn out nothing but A welds

my bet would be that whoever
welded that seam in the pictures
is NOT a certified welder
any fool can drag some rod !!!!

wishing all a blessed day
from
Mountainman

nailit 12-15-2011 03:44 PM

Kat, thanks for the pictures. It's scary seeing and reading about the Lippert frame failures. We have the 285 toyhauler and I when I see pictures like yours, makes me wonder if and when something like this will happen to me. We have nearly pulled our 285 10,000 miles and a lot of that mileage has been on the back roads AZ and NM.

Good Luck...

Kat 12-15-2011 07:08 PM

Lippert Frame Defect
 
Thanks for you reply guys. I was just in shock when i noticed this failure. I was a certified welder for DOD for about twenty years and know what a weld should look like and not to mention that being around steel most of my life I got a good idea of what size steel should have been used on a main structural member that is design to see lots of abuse from the road. .097" just don't cut the mustard. I have tv stands in the house that is every bit of that. I guess it's all about the mighty dollar and not or safety. If anybody has the e-mail address to the CEO of forest river or Lippert please provide. I am searching all over for it. Also please check your rigs out. A good indication is when the distance between the rails of your bed are diffrent when hooked up because of the load ( with jacks in the up position ) and when leveling side to side it makes the reading off.

Kat 12-15-2011 07:37 PM

Lippert Frame Defect on Wolfpack W295
 
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DDC 12-15-2011 08:44 PM

Did you contact the Government department responsible for vehicle safety as this kind of junk on the road has a detrimental effect on every road user, these companies must be held responsible for their bad products and bad workmanship.

rkswyo 12-15-2011 09:19 PM

Is Forest River still using these frames? Very shoddy looking welds at best! I can't believe the frame material is only .097. I am a certified welding inspector thru the American Welding Society. A couple things I see here. The cracked welds are all starting from stress risers. Also some of the welds have excesive reinforcement. More is not always better. Also some of the welds show lack of fusion and cold lap. Really baffles me these made it by any quality control.

rkswyo 12-15-2011 09:28 PM

Wow! Just did a search on this subject and Lippert seams to have alot of issues!

Kat 12-16-2011 12:10 PM

Cherokee Wolfpack WP295 Frame Failure
 
Just lodged a complain with NHTSA today and also send an e-mail to WA. state department of transporation with pictures. Hope this will catch some attension.


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