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segel10 09-22-2015 04:51 PM

Lippert 6 Point “Level Up” Automatic Hydraulic Leveling System Question
 
New to using this system. Parked on road in front of house and used the auto level (first time). When it finished, the three jacks on the curb side were down and on the road side the front and back were down solid. The middle jack on the road side was up about an inch. Could not figure out how to get it down. Rig is level and because of the crowned road the curb side tires are off the pavement. How do you get the middle jack to come down to make contact??

Thanks to all the smart people!

Witch Doctor 09-22-2015 04:57 PM

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You have to scholl your panel to manual mode and do it in that mode. You can work each ram independently in manual mode. I would put some wood under the wheels off the ground and then hit auto level again. I say that just to take some pressure off the rams. It is the same if you had a flat. You can go into manual mode and lift that side to change a tire. The level up is the only system that will allow you to do that.

Witch Doctor 09-22-2015 05:14 PM

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Also here is the manual for your system

spock123 09-22-2015 05:28 PM

What I do is put plastic pads under the jacks. I make it level from the bottom up, I measure while the Creek is still hooked up on the truck, I make it the same distance from each jack to the ground with plastic pads. The Level-up thinks it's on level ground, the tires stay on the ground too


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MIFarmer 09-22-2015 06:16 PM

The system consists of three pairs of jacks: front two, middle and back left, and middle and back right. Each jack in the pair is fed from a tee, so they will each have equal pressure between the two. One jack in the pair will always have more friction than the other so it will extend first until it contacts the ground, then the other heads down.
The second thing to think of, is that the system senses angles. It has no idea how long each jack is extended.
So when you hit auto and it says "grounding jacks", it is pumping fluid (left side first) until it senses movement. Once the jacks are grounded then it works on leveling the unit.
I'd suspect that your left middle jack is still a bit tight, and the back jack touched down hard enough to bump the camper and fool the system that the left side had grounded. And since that was the high side it never called for any more fluid. If you go to manual mode and extend the left side the left middle should finish extending.

segel10 09-22-2015 06:43 PM

Thanks,
There are a lot of smart people out there! I am still learning after 8 years and now on yet a different RV. I have been watching and re-watching the video. With these explanations, it is starting to sink in!

Thanks Again!!!!!!!!!

Duckogram 09-22-2015 07:05 PM

There is another possibility, an air bubble in the system. The good news is that it is self bleeding. So simply using(cycling) it a few times will correct the problem. Also as a suggestion from years of experience, make yourself 6 blocks to put under the jacks. I made mine out of 2x12's, screwed together, 3 high with strap handles for carrying and pulling them out from under with a hook end rod. By using the blocks you reduce the extension length of the ram which adds stability and exposes less of the ram to the elements for easier maintence.

Spray silicone on the rams and WD40 on the feet. If you get WD40 on the rams be sure to clean it off. The seals dont like it.

Also, I seldom used auto level. Its not as accurate as I would like and it raises the unit higher than needed to achieve level.

j free 09-23-2015 12:19 PM

I have this happen often don't know why it dose it but for some reason after getting the front and back level it lowers the middle support jacks and seems that when one jack hits they both stop. I just go to manual mode and lower the straggler.

clr 09-23-2015 12:33 PM

A key to using auto level is after you unhook from the TV lower the front jacks prior to hitting the auto level. This will allow the unit to reach level at a lower point and not lift the tires off the ground in most cases. This is due to the fact that the first move of the auto level is to raise the nose of the unit.

dieselguy 09-23-2015 02:56 PM

Quote" If you get WD40 on the rams be sure to clean it off. The seals dont like it."
Where did you get this information from? If the jack seals are effected by WD40 ... all of us with Level Up have some sad sad seal call outs from Lippert. The block suggestions are good as there will be times when the pad is so unlevel, you won't have enough cylinder stroke to get level without them. Also less cylinder extension means less wobble.


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