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10-19-2022, 06:00 PM
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Anyone seen this bolt anywhere on a 2020 Forest River Salem
Hello everyone!
I found this bolt out near my camper yesterday after going camping, and I’m not convinced it came off the travel trailer, but I would like to ask to see if anyone might have any idea if anything like this even exists on the camper.
It looks like a drain plug, but I don’t want to ignore it, obviously. Nothing else I own is as new as my camper, so I wanted to start here.
Any ideas will be much appreciated.
Thank you,
Damien
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10-19-2022, 06:07 PM
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looks like an engine oil drain bolt or transmission . not long enough for a suspension bolt and have never seen that type bolt used as a drain plug on a TT tank , maybe spare tire bolt for mount . just guesses
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10-19-2022, 06:07 PM
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I agree on oil pan drain plug. Is it magnetic on the end?
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10-19-2022, 06:15 PM
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Yeah, my first guess was oil drain plug also, but my truck has a quick release oil drain, so it’s not my truck.
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10-19-2022, 06:17 PM
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I’ll have to check to see if it’s magnetic or not. Thanks for the reply, I’m just trying to figure out where it possibly could have come from. I hate this….lol
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10-19-2022, 06:19 PM
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Relax.
I'd bet it's not from your TT.
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10-19-2022, 06:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cboss
Relax.
I'd bet it's not from your TT.
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Yeah, that’s good news….but also leaves me with that lingering question…lol. I did check my oil and transmission levels in my truck and all is good there.
I guess my only other options would be a lawnmower or my Polaris UTV. Both were in that area recently as well.
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10-19-2022, 08:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nvs4602
I agree on oil pan drain plug. Is it magnetic on the end?
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Even if not magnetic, that unthreaded portion at the end is to help prevent cross-threading when replacing.
My vote is it's a drain plug, possibly a spare that was bagged with instructions for a generator, etc.
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10-20-2022, 09:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
Even if not magnetic, that unthreaded portion at the end is to help prevent cross-threading when replacing.
My vote is it's a drain plug, possibly a spare that was bagged with instructions for a generator, etc.
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10-20-2022, 09:23 AM
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To me it looks like a drain plug from a small engine or pump. However, one clue is that you did not find it in the middle of a big stain from a puddle of oil or antifreeze. So, if the ground was clean where you found it, a new/spare drain plug is most likely.
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10-20-2022, 09:37 AM
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Those bolts are also often used on the interior build of vehicles where the bolt has to go through a layer or two of something before getting to a retainer that is not fastened solidly in its mount. (has some movement)
The non-threaded tip of the bolt allows the pieces to align as the bolt is inserted and then aligns the moving retainer to the bolt for threading. Places using this often include the steering column to lower dash, seat belt mechanisms and the like.
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10-20-2022, 02:15 PM
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Pilot bolt
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Originally Posted by TitanMike
Even if not magnetic, that unthreaded portion at the end is to help prevent cross-threading when replacing.
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That particular style (with unthreaded portion) is called a "pilot bolt."
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10-20-2022, 02:55 PM
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I've seen those types of bolts before. Often used to fasten components to uni-body constructed vehicles.
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10-20-2022, 02:55 PM
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Can I have it
Looks like it may be useful
I keep telling the missus one day I’ll clean out all the ones I collected
Btw
Bolts have thread that stop short of the head
Screws have threads all the way up
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10-20-2022, 03:07 PM
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GM uses them
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Originally Posted by D W
I've seen those types of bolts before. Often used to fasten components to uni-body constructed vehicles.
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GM uses them on their frame vehicles, too. 2006 full-size SUVs used four M10 self-threading bolts to attach the skid place that's under the oil pan. They didn't bother to tap the frame ahead of time--just ran the pilot bolts in with an air-wrench.
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10-20-2022, 03:13 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussieguy
Can I have it
Looks like it may be useful
I keep telling the missus one day I’ll clean out all the ones I collected
Btw
Bolts have thread that stop short of the head
Screws have threads all the way up
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Not necessarily... there are many examples of full thread bolts with threads right up to the bolt head. They are often called tap bolts.
Here is one such example...
1/2"-20 x 3" SAE J429 Grade 8 Plain Finish Steel Tap Bolt
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10-20-2022, 06:33 PM
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My understanding is that a screw threads into one of the objects being fastened, a bolt uses a nut to fasten objects together.
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10-20-2022, 06:38 PM
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OMG! Internet forum members will argue about EVERYTHING!
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10-20-2022, 06:44 PM
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Confusing
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Originally Posted by EddieL
My understanding is that a screw threads into one of the objects being fastened, a bolt uses a nut to fasten objects together.
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Now that's confusing. If I buy a 3/8" threaded object with a hexagonal head, how does the store know whether I'm going to put it into a tapped hole or a hex nut?
Does the store have to keep two boxes of the identical product, one for customers who intend to put them into tapped holes and one for customers who intend to use them with hex nuts?
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10-20-2022, 06:49 PM
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well the OP got his answer and we're having some extra banter
I hope they not fighting too much...
but I am right you know.
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