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Old 02-13-2017, 09:47 AM   #41
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What has price got to do with it? Do you want a good tire or a cheap tire, you can't have both...
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Old 02-13-2017, 09:58 AM   #42
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It don't matter where it's made the difference is in the testing. The testing standards for an ST tire are substandard to the testing of an LT tire. They are tested at lower speeds for less time and weight. Probably because it's a passenger carrying tire. The speed rating will also be lower then most speed limits. Now I know a lot of folks do not drive at 65, but here in Texas and out west a lot of us do....
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:04 AM   #43
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The E rating on these can't be 4,080 lbs unless someone changed the entire rating system........and not at 80 psi.

Something is amiss.

I emailed the guy who is going to do my disc brakes next month and asked him, since he also sells tires and wheels.........and this is his reply:

I am not sure how they are doing this. RMA is the tire industry governing body on load, inflation, speed and dimensions. The LT 235/85R16 G at ST speeds will carry the 4,080 lbs. Many LT tires have been reclassified as ST tires with no change in construction carrying the 4,080 lbs. at 110 psi.

I have no idea how a load range E, ST tire can carry the same load. The N speed rating is lower than the R speed rating on the G614.

There may be some RMA changes that I am not aware of.
BandJCarm, you are NOT comparing two of the same size tires. You are trying to compare a 235/80 or maybe a 235/85R16 to a larger sized 255/80R16. This larger tire has more volume.

Comparing a Load Range G tire to a Load Range E tire, works when the same size is used for comparision....but in this case it's not. You are trying to compare a larger Load Range E tire to a smaller Load Range G tire.

Also this larger 255/80R16 besides being taller than a 235/80R16 or 235/85R16, it's also wider. It is not just going to work on all the same applications that a 235/80R16 or 235/85R16 does due to larger size.
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Thanks, man.

I just couldn't figure how they got 4,080 lbs of capacity on 80 psi.

I'll stick with the G614's being my next tire.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:25 PM   #45
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Thanks, man.

I just couldn't figure how they got 4,080 lbs of capacity on 80 psi.

I'll stick with the G614's being my next tire.

It will take a while to prove themselves so I'll stick with Carlisle HD as well.
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It will take a while to prove themselves so I'll stick with Carlisle HD as well.
I guess you got left off the memo GY paying to beta test Later RJD
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I guess you got left off the memo GY paying to beta test Later RJD
Memo went to the 'junk mail' folder. Just as well as I'm really not into taking chances, especially when it comes to changing flat tires.
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Kudos to Goodyear. This will be my next tire.
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Kudos to Goodyear. This will be my next tire.
I'll wait and hope they earn the rep of the G614 and not the Marathon
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UPDATE: Sailun S237T required Rim Widths

I currently run the Maxxis 235/80R16 and was looking for a higher speed rated tire in the Sailun S637T (not the larger 235/85) of the same size. Before I saw these Goodyear Endurance, I was researching the option for Sailuns. The issue that had me stumped was that my Wildcat's HiSpec Series 9, 6-lug wheels are tagged by Forest River as Rim size 6.0 in. and everything I saw on Sailuns said the needed 6.5 in. wide rims.

So I followed up with Sailun and got this email response below. The short answer is that for the same size tire, both Maxxis and Sailun use the identical rim widths. Also, as a side note, I now know how much heavier the Sailuns are than the Maxxis. The Maxxis 8008 in the 235/80R16 size weight 43.4 lbs vs. the same size Sailun's 55.1 lbs (guess that's the extra tread and plys). The larger Sailun (235/85R16) weighs a whopping 61.3 lbs.

BTW The Sailun spec table info was in the email as a pasted graphic table that I then re-typed here in a format more readable for this forum.


From: Fraga, Olga (@ gosailun.com)
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 7:58 AM
To: Bill Smith
Subject: RE: Rim size question

Mr. Smith,

We are in receipt of your inquiry. We are a wholesale tire distributor of a variety of brands of tires including Sailun, not a tire manufacturer. The Sailun S637 ST trailer tire comes in two sizes and both sizes are for a 16 inch (Height) rim: 235/80R16 and 235/85R16. If you are referring to the information under Rim, this is actually the Rim Width in inches. The rim (Width) range for the Sailun S637 is 6.0 to 7.5.

The information on the dedicated webpage we created for Sailun is as follows:

SAILUN S637T REGIONAL TRAILER ST 235/85R16
Code :5540993
Ply Rating : 14
Unmounted Tire Weight: 61.3 lbs
Tread Depth : 12/32 in.
Outer Diameter: 31.7 in.
Load Index : 132/127
Load Capacity : Single:4,400* lbs. - Dual:3,860 lbs.
Load Note :* Requires special high load capacity wheel. Consult wheel manufacturer for proper application.

SAILUN S637T REGIONAL TRAILER ST 235/80R16
Code:5541960
Ply Rating: 12
Unmounted Tire Weight: 55.1 lbs
Tread Depth: 10/32 in.
Outer Diameter: 30.8 in.
Load Index: 129/125
Load Capacity: Single:4,080* lbs. - Dual:3,640 lbs.
Load Note :* Requires special high load capacity wheel. Consult wheel manufacturer for proper application.

Both tires have the same following specs:

Sidewall : 9.3
S.L.R. : 14.7
Rim Width : 6.0-[6.5]-7.5
Load Range : G
Speed Rating : L (75mph)
A. Pressure : 110psi

Should you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Thank you,

Olga Fraga
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4300 TBC Way
Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410
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